For reference: adaptive AI thoroughly explained

This is just my own opinion here, so take it with a grain of salt.

If you are the type of person to really want to dig into the painstaking detail of how something works, to hopefully get as perfect of a result from it as you can... Adaptive AI probably isnt for you.

It's really fairly simple, and I think @CheerfullyInsane explained it pretty well.

So, how do you train it? First, if you want some reading material, perhaps take a look at this thread.

Otherwise, more simply put... Do a handful of short sessions and finish them. Practice, qualy, race, etc. The AI will eventually start to get its level closer to your own.

Of course, going back to my first point, the Adaptive AI is fairly simple. It wont adapt in the middle of a race... So it does take a while to get it near your skill level.

And for myself, I cant be arsed with wasting time training the AI on every single car/track combo just to get a good result. I know from doing plenty of racing what level I need the AI to be set at to give me the type of enjoyment I want. So, using a fixed setting makes sense for me. I know some other people are the polar opposite and swear by the Adaptive AI. So, if you want to put the time in, you may be gratified in doing so.

Cheers

 

i think it's more simple.
now AI races at my speed.
so i can't catch it.
the start grid is often the end race.
just at start AI is bad.
it's frustrating to have AI at exactly same LVL.

 

The adaptive AI made by Sector 3 is smarter and faster than I am
I am jealous of him

 

You mean - even more reading, from them this time?

Maybe you have overlooked the point of why I opened this thread - and the initial link I gave in the first post.

Yes, the reading part in that is still mandatory, I fear...

 

Create an audiobook, Skybird!

 

If you mean the turn-one-snydrome, yes, that can be a bit messy at times. Stay out of the action and bypass it on the sides. However, it has become much better. I see a car field of 50 cars going through the first turn at Nürburgring now without pileups. They slow down, there is a traffic jam, yes - but it keeps on rolling.

Else, its up to you to learn to become a faster driver. The AI is not there to provide you with easy opportunities to overtake cars, but to give you a fight while not leaving the realm of what is possible according to law of physics and the technical limits of the cars. The AI is there to simulate for you human opponents.

In other words: practice makes masters. In RR, I once drove at 91, 92. Now I drive at 96, and sometimes even start to test 97. My advise to you: log track time, log more of it, and then go out and log some track time. Train, train, train.

 

i have only 70hours of gameplay but i'm already at 105% strenght.
i fear to be at 120 too fast.
after i will have no AI at my level.
maybe it will be the time for iRacing

 

Provides fun beyond 120

 

you are always funny

 

6 hours ago you were crying because you can't catch them and now you fear the Ai won't be fast enough for you?
Being drunk on sunday afternoon should worry you.

 

By the way, I don't think that adaptive AI can have an AI level higher than 120.

When you're better than AI at level 120, you should participate in some competitions in the game!

 

i can't catch yet but i progress every day

 

You're right, it can't.

Oh, and I wouldn't worry too much about running out of AI levels.
Just for reference, the FR3 @ Nürburgring leaderboard currently stands at:

1. 1:48.39
2. 1:49.10
3. 1:49.53
4. 1:49.76
5. 1:50.49

120% AI will give you a data-entry of approximately 1:49.00
And that, mind you, is the average lap-time of the grid.
So while I'm sure there are people out there who are capable of beating 120 AI, I'm equally sure that the number of people who can do so, can be counted on one, severely mangled, hand.
Granted, there are combos the AI is better at than others. I can beat 120 AI using NSUs @ Norisring, simply because the AI still struggles with hairpins.
But overall, it's not a problem.

 

on youtube, there is a man who start last and beat AI at 120.
his name is yakubu and he is in top 10 best racer in the world. (with R3E)

 

You mean Ismail? Yep, know him from RD. Great guy as well.
And off the top of my head, there's also Kunze, Weisenmuller and a few others in that class.
But......

a) You're kinda missing the point. Most of us (if any) will ever get to be that fast, thus it becomes a non-issue.
b) How do you know he can start from the back and beat 120 AI? Far as I know, he only does online races, and there isn't a single video within the last 12 months showing him racing against the AI.

 

b) i told you he has made a video on youtube where he has started from last and overtake all AI to finish first at 120%.
and after i have seen top world race with only very good racers and he was 6th on the grid.
so i guess only few players have this level.
i'm sure you can find this video on youtube or i will find it again.


edit : it's him

 

There's no point trying to build AI to cater for aliens. They often lap quicker than the real cars.

I would guess at least 90% of people playing R3E use an AI level well below 120.

 

it's sad to be in the 10%

 

It is perhaps also worth mentioning that the video shows the AI from before the January ´17 patch.
They've gotten a fair bit quicker since then. In the case of GTR3s it's to the tune of 3-5 seconds a lap faster.

But again, we're talking about not even the top 10%. Maybe top 2-3%
Take the current competition with the RUF at Nords.
Roughly 470 entries, ten (10!) of which manage to get into Division 1.
120% AI does the Nords VLN in 8:01 in the RUF, which is enough to beat all but the top 12 on the leaderboard.......

So is it possible to outrun the AI at max level? Yes.
But it's not a problem most of us are ever going to run in to.

 

There is also another aspect to this that is sometimes overlooked.

Very, very few players can actually race against the AI at 120%. While being able to match their pace in a qualy session or outrun them when comparing the AI pace to a leaderboard time... Racing them is a different story.

Just due to the nature of actually racing, your pace from defending or trying to pass the AI is going to inherently slow you down. Once you start battling the AI, you arent going to be at the same pace as your hotlaps without anyone around you.

And with the AI running consistent lap times once they settle into the race a few laps after the start... if you are working your way through the field, catching up to the leaders is going to be a huge task.