Any thoughts on a new Gen Ryzen 3000 and other computer stuff?

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  1. Turtle Power

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    I am thinking, it might be a good thing when the new gen computers come out as it would save me a few dollars when buying the current gen.
     
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  3. Turtle Power

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    Do we know the official release date
     
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    July 7th
     
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    I am definitely buying a new mainboard and a new CPU in July, but I cannot decide which one at the moment.

    Ryzen 9 3900X 12 Cores / 24 Threads | 3,8 / 4,6 GHz | 64 MB L3 | 105 W TDP | 499 USD
    Ryzen 7 3800X 8 Cores / 16 Threads | 3,9 / 4,5 GHz | 32 MB L3 | 105 W TDP | 399 USD
    Ryzen 7 3700X 8 Cores / 16 Threads | 3,6 / 4,4 GHz | 32 MB L3 | 65 W TDP | 329 USD
    Ryzen 5 3600X 6 Cores /12 Threads | 3,8 / 4,4 GHz | 32 MB L3 | 95 W TDP | 229 USD

    To me 3800X and 3600X are the most tempting, and while I do glance at the 8-core-CPU, I do think the much cheaper price for the 6-core Ryzen 5 is great along its Ghz-output.
     
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    I'm interested to build a new computer with a 3rd gen Ryzen. I think I'll get the 3800X but I wait for reviews first. Hopefully all the rumors are true. :)
     
  7. Turtle Power

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    Anyone else think its worth getting the new Ryzen? I kinda think to get an i7 9700k if the price drops significantly and get myself HE handbrake (unless the price is the same)
     
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  8. Eddie Ellis

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    Has anybody tested the Ryzen 7 3700X or 3800X with Race Room? I know the clock speed won't be an issue, but I race Race Room as my main sim, so if there any weird issues, I would like to know before I build a 3700X system.
     
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    Well, don't know about the others, but both the 3700X and 3800X are out of stock in my country and it looks like this won't change until August... Shame because I have everything else to build my new config.
     
  10. Thomas Jansen

    Thomas Jansen KW Studios Developer Beta tester

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    I'm building my ryzen 3600 system this week, so will find out soon(tm) if it works :p
     
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  11. Bull Shark

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    I’m still happy with my system. Although the new ryzen looks promising
     
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    I am looking at a few possible options for Raceroom (mainly), as well as other racing titles using triple screen setup at 144hz, 1080p.

    1. If the prices of an i7 drop significantly I might add Nvidia 2070 super edition to it and go from there
    2. If the new Ryzen 3000 series are better performers as they say, I wouldn't mind it
    3. Ryzen 3000 series with AMD graphics maybe but not so sure. It will depend on the price and performance

    The other thing is, my plan is to get the new computer by mid August. Been waiting for a long time to fire the triples and can't wait anymore. Mid August it is.
    I hope we can get some info regarding the ryzen 3600 system and see how that goes? Please share the info asap.
     
  13. Thomas Jansen

    Thomas Jansen KW Studios Developer Beta tester

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    Will do :D, though it will be based on VR performance, which is where CPU matters most anyway!
     
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  14. Balrog

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    It looks like my 3700X will arrive tomorrow, although I won't replace my GTX1060 just yet so I'm not expecting significant improvements in R3E (it already runs just fine), I'm targeting ACC with this build, unfortunately my i5-4690 is barely enough for a practice run with a single car.:confused:
     
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    Sounds good
     
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    Any news?
     
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    We built the new config yesterday, I'm really impressed so far.:) I haven't had the time to do proper gaming and testing, because we finished it around midnight, but I already started ACC and F1 2019 (because these are more demanding than R3E) and both ran butter smooth, my GTX 1060 GPU is the new bottleneck, so I might stretch my budget a little bit and maybe buy a new GPU too...:D

    By the way, it's great to see that ACC seemingly uses all available cores and threads on the CPU, all 16 threads were working while it ran, with around 20-50% usage.
     
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  18. Eddie Ellis

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    Well I guess I have to turn in my "man card" as I made a last minute decision to buy a pre-built Intel system for the first time in 20 years. I always built my own.
    The 3700X was out of stock at my local store and I got a sale flyer for an i7 7900K/ RTX 2070 system for less than I could buy the parts for.
     
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    A little bit more details after 1 day of testing:

    Overall, I'm happy with the new config's performance, the system is noticeably faster in general, I can also code and work faster, so that's a big plus.

    On the gaming side, my current PC might even be an overkill for a single 1080p screen (but I'm planning on upgrading that part too): I ended up buying an RTX 2070 Super to replace my old GTX 1060.

    I received a 3 month Xbox pass as a gift for purchasing a Ryzen, so I tested Forza Horizon 4 and it ran at 150 FPS with everything maxed out, I also tried Prey which (apart from an odd memory crash on a single occasion) also ran pretty smoothly.

    But specificly in RaceRoom, I see no improvement at all unfortunately (and I kinda expected that to be honest). With everything maxed out, when I'm in a tight field with cars all around me, FPS drops to the 60-80 range and I can still notice some slight hiccups. But if I lower some settings (track detail to 'medium', track animations to 'off', shadow quality to 'lowest', visible cars and contact shadows to around '20'), it runs okay, but the end result is about the same as it was on my previous PC.
     
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  20. Thomas Jansen

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    Zen 2 is still very capable, here are some quick tests I did with my oculus CV1, with opencomposite installed. I upgraded from my 4770k@4.4GHz with 2400CL11 DDR3 to a Ryzen 3600 with 3600CL14 DDR4. Turned on PBO and autoOC to get 4.15GHz all core clocks and 4.3-4.4GHz single core clocks. looked at frametimes while sitting in the pits of some tracks and looking straight ahead. These are the improvements I got:

    Zandvoort: 4.2ms -> 3.8ms
    Spa: 4.8ms -> 4.2ms
    Nords 24h: 8.2ms -> 6.2ms
    Nords: 6.5ms -> 5.5ms


    to get a harsher load I loaded 20 AI and looked out of my window at all of them in the pits:
    Zandvoort looking at 20 AI: ~13ms -> ~10ms (and very smooth compared to 4770k which had a lot of framedrops when another car gets into view)

    Honestly it was more of an improvement than I expected, and I haven't even overclocked my 1080ti yet which I did have for my 4770k tests :D I think the RAM might be the key, I already upgraded from 1600MHz to 2400MHz on my 4770k and got a significant boost back then.
     
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