Are the new physics way too forgiving?

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  1. James Cook

    James Cook Well-Known Member

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    ...and while you're at it, give us a video of your extraordinary braking ability.
     
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  2. Konta-Robi

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  3. Jynn

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    It's 'brake', not 'break. Just saying...
     
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  4. Rik Fast

    Rik Fast Well-Known Member

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    ....hmmmm bye the way, i want the pedals he's having....
     
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  5. Blanes

    Blanes Well-Known Member

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    Simcade ? ... Brake 280 to zero in 1 second ? ... Cannot make the car unbalanced no matter what ? And of course top of most leaderboards :eek: Gimme a break ! :confused:

    Looks like we have been right royally trolled :D Nr 1. Ranking on the international knob jockey leaderboards o_O Good effort there old mate ! ;)
     
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  6. ::SKRO::

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    65 replies even tho...

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  7. mister dog

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  8. sbtm

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    why shouldn't it be possible with a race car to brake from 280 to 120 (or could be 140 or 100.. something like this) in 2 or 3 seconds? You know your gears are very long and the 2nd gear is like 4th in normal street cars? That's only a difference of 160 kmh and a race car's brakes are very impressive.. so nothing impossible.

    A streetlegal Porsche 911 GT3 brakes from 100 to 0 in 31m ..so maybe you do the math how long your car travels in 2 seconds while braking from 280 to 120

    So from 100 to 0 for the Porsche would be about 2,2 seconds. An from 280 to 120 it would be roughly 3,9 seconds. And that are the brakes from the street version.. now imagine even better brakes in combination with racing slicks. I'll leave the rest to your imagination.
    Eh an F1 car brakes from 335 to 90 in 2,5s... i know they're better than the brakes from the gt3 car but you see what's possible in racing and the GT3 cars and others with racing brakes will not be far off.

    And when you experience the brake power of GT3 cars in real life at the racetrack you know what they can do. I saw several races from gt3, gtlm and lmp1 and lmp2 at the Nürburgring last year and always sat at the braking zones (like dunlop kehre or the first hairpin to mercedes arena) and they brake so f*ckin late and hard you always think they crash. The LMP1 are obviously more impressive but the GT3 and GTLM cars are not far off. I'll have a look if i can upload a video from this hairpin where you see (and hear) them braking in just a few seconds from 240 to 60!
    Ah and one more thing. They are very stable while braking as long as they don't turn the wheels into the corner.
     
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  9. Orisa

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    I think ... during my category vehicles to easily and offer me no challenge .... then I go to another class (for example, Gr.5)

    I the leaderboards , you can find me only in the back of the midfield. And that with many work. I have to fight with a GTR3 car. And yes I know I'm a slow driver. But no matter what I do. For me the GTR3 cars run only on rails, if I go slower.

    I would never claim that the new physics is perfect. Especially as the Today's hardware is not capable of a 100% driving behavior to simulate. But it seems to me as if I'd drive a racing car in R3E. In the AC is not the case. There I always think they screwed me winter tires on the car.

    But I allow everyone to form his own opinion.
     
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  10. Sean Kenney

    Sean Kenney Well-Known Member

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    troll both
     
  11. MeMotS

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    Yeah we know a few from Vracing, Racedepartement or even here now.
    We should know better ;)
     
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  12. Ouvert

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    I would say as much as there are fun, cars are more forgiving on braking (specialy braking and turning at the same time) and over curbs ... over the limit it feel like a bit of stabilisation aid is present and a lots of time when I feel like I should crash it just sticks ... but at the same time it feels good, natural and fun .. if it makes sense...also new FFB is just blast even on car with old physics
     
  13. ДДºMortICi

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    No video to back up claims, random statements about realism, its not hard therefore not realistic, simcade, blah blah blah blah.

    Don't feed the troll.
     
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  14. Ouvert

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    I can record some for you, I should have few minutes tomorrow morning :) more time for me in R3E
     
  15. ДДºMortICi

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    I was referring to OP, not you.

    However, please do so with the Nissan GTR, default setup. I want you to hammer that throttle on corner exit, don't be gentle, make sure you TCS is set to step 1 or off completely. Some cars are much more planted, for instance the RUF is rather easy to drive.

    You can trail brake with these cars, but it all depends on setup. Which car are you using to base the though that the cars are more forgiving?



    ^^I seem to have trouble with braking especially if I miss a brake point.... this was with a custom setup on the car to make it more stable.... Watch at 16:41 and later. On the hairpin, I wasn't even on the kerb, just the bounce of the track unsettled the car too much and I had a slight turn on the wheel which led to a spin.
     
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  16. Ouvert

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    Yesterday: RUF, mp4 GT3s, Gr.5 BMW and Nissan (Gr.5. doesn`t count .. I was constantly smiling and having too much fun to be paying attention to their behaviour :) )
    Today: LMP1 car, Merc DTM92, E30 BMW and Nissan from Touring classics,
    TC at 1 ... and I have no problem with grip or TC .. I don`t even have problem with what I wrote .. just saying how it feels to me ..
     
  17. ДДºMortICi

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    Giggity, no worries. I think the cars are just fine, they are planted and great to drive. In my opinion much better than before the patch.

    "Harder != More Realistic" is all I'm saying

    Now go keep pushin' them cars and set some leaderboard times!
     
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  18. fischhaltefolie

    fischhaltefolie Well-Known Member

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    I think the troll has seen some daylight!:)
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  19. Tonbei

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    That's not an argument mate :D
     
  20. Tonbei

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    And where is your argument to disprove my points? ;)
     
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