Strong and weak points of R3E (IYO)

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by gp20, May 6, 2016.

  1. gp20

    gp20 Well-Known Member

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    So what do you think are the strong and the weak points of R3E today?

    Me think
    Strong points :
    _ nice tracks (graphics)
    _ nice sounds
    _ good speed sensation
    _ good internet account manager
    _ good ffb/car's physic

    Weak points :
    _ robotic and stupid AI
    _ bad car's graphic, not on paar with PCars
    _ bad collisions management
     
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  2. Mich Angel

    Mich Angel Well-Known Member

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    Only thing I would say is weak IMO is the collisions management but it is geting better and better and damage % in get real... don't think it is more than 70-75% real but then no other race sim is either so it's not really an issue for me :D
    Part from that I think it is the best race sim there is and if they keep going in direction they are it's going to be even more awesome :D
     
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  3. rad

    rad Well-Known Member

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    Weak:
    Lack of Brands Hatch GP and other British tracks
    Lack of Sebring
    Lack of Adelaide and other Australian tracks
    Lack of V8 Supercars
     
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  4. Sean Kenney

    Sean Kenney Well-Known Member

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    Pros
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    -Good Car selection and racing series...DTM, ADAC, WTCC
    -Updating physics
    -Sounds
    -Business model
    -FFB
    -Leaderboards and competetions

    Cons
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    -Basic race feature set....flags, data/telemetry(even though you can get it in other aps, it is still lacking in the game)
    -Business model
    -Cost
    -Number of players...although getting larger.
    -Need a few more tracks
    -Length of time for some things to get added...small dev squad.
    -The Experiences don't really add anything other than a rule set. Would like more immersion to feel I am in the series.
    -Some server instability on mp and always on DRM(good and bad)
    -Reflections
     
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  5. wad53

    wad53 Member

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    I agree, my only real disappointment is the contact reactions between the drivers car and the AI (haven't run RRE on-line). If I only lightly tap the car in front, I spin off rather violently every time, whilst the AI mostly continues on with only a small reaction. However, when the AI tap me, it's the opposite, I again spin off badly, the AI continues on almost unaffected.

    The rest of RRE is coming along nicely.
     
  6. rbn

    rbn Well-Known Member

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    The Good
    - Car/track selection
    - Real racing series (DTM, ADAC, WTCC)
    - Physics
    - Sound
    - FFB
    - Portal/leaderboards
    - Custom championships

    The Bad
    - No assymetric setup (L/R)
    - Buggy AI
    - Weird collisions
    - No telemetry tool (PCars has Profiler)
    - Bugs

    The Ugly
    - The HUD is awfull (to big, overlapping other info, not movable)
    - Very annoying pit menu (to many buttons needed on wheel)
    - Cockpit graphics (competition looks better by quite a margin)
    - Awfull rearview mirrors (stretched graphics)
    - Brake lights are not very visible
     
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  7. James Cook

    James Cook Well-Known Member

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    Strong:
    • Large range of highly detailed, top quality tracks
    • Excellent selection of class-based vehicle content
    • Good balance to the physics - natural, approachable yet demanding on the edge
    • Crisp, natural-looking graphics - quite impressive considering the engine
    • Unrivalled audio
    • Good FFB
    • Nice UI
    • Portal feature
    • Leaderboards

    Weak:
    • Elements of the business model (expensive, convoluted, confusing to the newcomer, discounts that look like a sale, charging for liveries etc...)
    • Lack of basic 'core' features (flag system, out lap/in lap/pitlane control, race distance by laps, tyre pressures etc...)
    • Development of the core game cannot match the pace of new content (small team)
    • Content a little too Germany-centric
    • No Brands Hatch GP layout :(
    • HUD needs a rethink (intrusive messages blocking rear view mirror, etc...)
    • Dialling in the FFB can be a dark art (too many options)
    • Funky collisions
    • AI is hit or miss with each update
    • Every race against the AI feels the same (lack of organic spins and crashes, very few DNFs due to failures)
     
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  8. The Iron Wolf

    The Iron Wolf Well-Known Member

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    I really enjoy R3E, most of all the fact, that it is based on real world series. This is great direction, and I'll continue support team with this model.

    Most of good things are already said, so I won't add value repeating them. But I'll mention couple of things why I still play pCars/rF2 once in a while, which show what is lacking (from what wasn't mentioned):

    R3E lacks:
    - Safety Car, Full Course Yellow
    - Day/Night transition (for endurance racing). The reason I learned Nordschleife not in R3E.
    - Real weather. It always sunny in R3E, which isn't bad thing, but, unrealistic
     
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  9. Pekro

    Pekro Active Member

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    Strong:
    • Graphics
    • Large Content
    • Very good FFB (once you got it set up properly :))
    • Best sound
    Weak:
    • Multiplayer without AI (i'm forced to play Project Cars, when i want to race against my 4 friends)
    • no weather
    • no flag rules (not really)
     
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  10. gio_vtec

    gio_vtec Well-Known Member

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    i will just say one thing

    Con:
    MULTIPLAYER
     
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  11. Zinker73

    Zinker73 Active Member

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    The good:
    • the tracks
    • the cars and classes
    • the amount of available content
    • the sound
    • the "feeling" while driving
    • the community
    • this forum :D
    The negative points:
    • missing AI in Multiplayer
    • missing decent chat interface that works throughout the whole session
    • missing weather
    • missing flags
    • intrusive messages on screen while racing
    • pit menu is a PITA
    • Server lobby needs a serious rework
    • not enough people in MP ... and too many quiters
    • quick chat buttons that don't work
     
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  12. Yatzeck

    Yatzeck Member

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    R3E is stil in beta phase, no matter how many pros and cons we itemize, the devs have this answer.

    But, the best sound, great force feedback, real world racing series, makes me happy to drive in this racing experiences.
    Nonetheless I don't understand why R3E is slave of the online status. Why is denuded of statistic and pulse of racing environement. In this bussines are involved real people. In R3E there are no humanity. If some extraterrestial landed on Earth and take knowledge about racing experience from R3E, that will be a little mistake. In R3E before and after the race is cold, empty dark space. Where are the emotions?
    By the way, am I live to see R3E 1.0 ?
     
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  13. M D Gourley

    M D Gourley Well-Known Member

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    The Good...This Sim brings me great happiness:D

    The Bad...some cars with bad, to low steering wheel position in cockpit view:mad:
     
  14. muzikant

    muzikant Well-Known Member

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    I love RRE so much for me is the best simracing on the market..

    But...
    If I wanted to... I would like to sector 3 some more information like what projects they are working on (now at this moment) and when the releases from this projects... A little more information from sector 3 please..

    We have a beautifull forum o_O:D:)
     
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  15. MsportDan

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    Pretty much repeat what Sean and James said.

    But would like to emphasize the lack of dynamic track conditions and better tyre heat effect flatspotting etc
     
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  16. Bee

    Bee Well-Known Member

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    R3E is not the best racesim on the market for me as every sim i onw has their strong points and weaknesses.
    When i look at R3E from a "objective" standpoint (par on the devs focus and not comparing it to r2F or other sims i own), i find R3E highly enjoyable.

    The only thing i really(!!) miss is full flag support including safety car:(. If S3 does not have this one high on their list i would recommend to alter the game so AI do not have any collisions anymore OR become transparent so they have no effect on other cars. Racing more than one hour races against AI is becoming a pain because of the lack of flag system. I can handle being knocked out at 45 minutes in a one hour race, but it is too much when that happens at the one hour 45 minutes marker. When i think about weather, track dynamics, ala rF2 carsetup im wishing for a perfect racesim, which never will exist. So i take R3E as it is and form that point of view its good;)
     
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  17. The_Grunt

    The_Grunt Well-Known Member

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    Pros:
    -Good focused content
    -Terrific sound assets
    -Good visuals
    -Enjoyable driving experience
    -Friendly devs and community

    Cons:
    -Poor AI (current version)
    -Lack of proper flag system
    -Missing features for car setup
    -Lack of dynamic road, weather and day/night effects
    -Lack of proper triple screen support

    All in all, R3E has pretty solid foundation. First three of the cons are something that is expected to be corrected through developement. Dynamic effects are probably something that won't be with us at least in forseeable future, but i hope we get adjustable view ports somewhere soon™ :)
     
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  18. XXVI Sol

    XXVI Sol Well-Known Member

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    love r3e,not time for any other sim for me :hearteyes:

    pros
    -great graphics,cant even imagine what they could do with unreal 4
    -really puts you in the drivers seat
    -stellar sounds make you smile a lot
    -physics/ffb the faster you go the harder it gets,best gt3 of all sims imo
    -collection of cars/tracks(tho still missing a lot)
    -awesome community,forum and devs that listen

    cons
    -producer monkey business
    -no night and weather
    -always online
    -rough mp servers(most importand imo)
    -physics, shilouettes and group5 whimped after update,also weird collision physics
    -no rules and car data
    -stingy setup options,even locked existing ones

    this game has come a long way, good to see player numbers increasing hope it gets the recognition it deserves
     
  19. Jebus

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    Only real weaknesses to me are ffb, which is nowhere near the sims like AC and AMS. It's not totally bad, otherwise I wouldn't even touch the game, but still something is missing. Also physics feels somewhat lacking, again comparing to those 2 sims mentioned, but not too bad.

    And that pet hate of mine, the business model.

    As to pros, I must say that r3e has improved as a sim quite a lot since the beginning.

    Edit. Forgot to add that I don't rank the sims I play, I enjoy them all for what they are.
     
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  20. ClayytonBR

    ClayytonBR New Member

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    Pros:
    Sound: simply incredible. The best of all sims.
    Cockpit position: The best of all sims. You can get the best adjustment without spoiling the speed sensitivity.
    FFB: Very solid force feedback. It really gives you the feeling of driving a racing car.
    Tracks: Very well designed.

    Cons:
    AI: Totally screwed after the last two updates
    AI: lacks speed at straights
    AI: Don´t challenge you, EVER.
    AI: Corners very slowly like my gramma going shopping for groceries.
    AI: Well, I just hate it so much right now.
     
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