The Assetto Corsa thread

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by Skybird, Aug 2, 2015.

  1. Alexander Dornieden

    Alexander Dornieden Well-Known Member

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    Really enjoying the new Porsche 911 RSR 2017. Did a few laps on Spa and it was pretty nice. This hotlap was pretty decent...hope you enjoy :)

    Link to setup is in my video description!

     
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  2. Cosmic

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    Anyone else having problems with the downshift protection? I just tried the combo in the video above and it definitely looks like something is jacked up on my end with the new 911. It seems to be rather inconsistent and once its activated it almost acts like a penalty, keeps you from trying to shift again for a second or so. If you keep trying it will keep triggering even though you are way below the limit. I've had to slow down to what seems like a crawl just to shift down to 3rd a few times.

    update - I ran an "integrity check" but it didn't find or download anything. So instead of an AI race I tried a practice session just by myself. In the practice session, to my surprise, it worked without any problems. I then went back to an AI race and the problem was gone. I have no idea what fixed it *shrug*

    update 2 - and of course it happened again. I think it might be load related even though my framerates seem good. Always seems to happen when I run a race with a lot of AI opponents. I know on the older versions I used to get the CPU warnings, so its my best guess right now.
     
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  3. Skybird

    Skybird Well-Known Member

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    Currently downloading version 1.13 of AC. The free update adds the Mazda 787B, the Mazda Miata, and the Porsche 911 RSR 2017. Beside bug fixing and tuning, it also adds several MP race features, amongst them pitstop presets and first steps for driver swaps in endurance races.

    The Porsche will be had only by those players who have bought the Porsche Pack 3, since it originally was part of it, but then delayed due to more time needed for development.

    Apparently no changes to the AI, at least nothing in the changelog. Grrrrr. I fear they intend to leave it as it is. Grrrrr-forte.
     
  4. Mr_Mints_Taboo

    Mr_Mints_Taboo Well-Known Member

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  5. Skybird

    Skybird Well-Known Member

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    But this idiot knows grammar better than you. ;)

    BTW, an "idiot" in its ancient Greek lingual origin "idiotes" (ἰδιώτης) means either an ordinary soldier or a - noble - person that has withdrawn from public life and offices, and cares for its own private business. :p
     
  6. Thomas Friedrich

    Thomas Friedrich Well-Known Member

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    I like goats... they're cute! So here's your 'disagree'.... and although I know it will lead to nowhere, I just want to say, that I think that everyone, every single one, in this forum, has posted more constructive things than you ever did...
    By the way, no one here is a foreigner, were all racecar pilots.... and most of us are polite...
     
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  7. Alexander Dornieden

    Alexander Dornieden Well-Known Member

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    BTW...Real TimeAttack 125% for my russian fella



    :)
     
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  8. Dale Junior

    Dale Junior Well-Known Member

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    Weekend Deal on Steam!!!

    Assetto Corsa for 14,99 €!!!

    Link: http://store.steampowered.com/app/244210/

    RaceRoom is too expensive for a sim without laser scanned tracks!!! Example: Full IndyCar pack for 7,28 € but the complete game cost 99,79 € (Premium pack)! Completely senseless price policy! Fixed guys!!!
     
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  9. nate

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    RR is $65 if you buy the 10,000 vRP pack from the raceroom store.

    Also, it has a whole lot more content than AC does. 2x-3x as many tracks. Fully licensed series, etc.
     
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  10. heppsan

    heppsan Well-Known Member

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    And also, @Patrick Schilhan you are comparing Raceroom to a weekend deal!.. . o_O
    If you buy AC with all DLC without a deal you will have to pay 94.9 euro, 29.9 euro more expensive than Raceroom if you buy 10000 vRP's. ;)
     
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  11. mr_belowski

    mr_belowski Well-Known Member Beta tester

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    RaceRoom is also much more better. This is a scientifically proven *fact* what I just done proved just now by playing them both and realising that Raceroom is a million times more exciting and fun and just generally better. So there.
     
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  12. Patrick van der Meulen

    Patrick van der Meulen Well-Known Member

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    Just bought AC with all DLC for € 42,00 so I can choose between AMS, RF2 and AC when R3E is down for whatever reason. :p:D

    And it's just nice to race a Ferrari and a Porsche when you like to, but further... And although R3E isn't perfect either (like al sims), it's just the most fitting race sim for me. With all it's imperfections (like all other sims).
     
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  13. Patrick van der Meulen

    Patrick van der Meulen Well-Known Member

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    I have run AC for 70 minutes now. Did a few laps on Zandvoort with the F40 and the Alfa 155 DTM and even did a few hundred meters with the Porsche Cayenne (blergh). And then a few laps on Silverstone with the McLaren F1 and Porsche 911 RSR.

    It's like @mr_belowski proved as a scientifically fact... R3E is just much better... very much better... :p:D

    But then again, sure AC is fun. But just not that much as R3E... ;)

    Oh, and for the price... AC is way to expensive. Even now it's on sale. Even 42 euros with all DLC it is still on the expensive side. Lack of tracks, lack of cars, pretty shitty UI... But it has Ferrari, Maserati, Alfa Romeo and Porsche. But I would never ever have spend 100 euros for it. And when you compare content, R3E is a steal with the full pack and vRP discount at 10.000 vRP. :)
     
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  14. Karting06

    Karting06 Well-Known Member Beta tester

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    I agree with you Patrick, but why driving with the Cayenne? Why?! Take the GT3 RS or another Porsche!
    I also have a lot of fun with AC because of the Porsche cars (917, RSR, Cup, ...). But indeed the UI is awful.

    R3E is fun but it would be a lot better with Porsche (I'm a big fan of Porsche... :D )
     
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  15. Patrick van der Meulen

    Patrick van der Meulen Well-Known Member

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    Because something in me said I must try... And I tried for about 200 meters and exit as fast as I could... :eek::p

    But sometimes I'm daydreaming, I dream that the guys from Kunos, Reiza and Sector 3 would merge together... I trully believe the impossible would happen if they did. If you take al the greatest bits and pieces of them, I think you get a sim which is far superior to everything we've seen so far.

    And let us be honest. They all do as best as they can with limited recources. After all, sim racing games is a small niche market.
     
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  16. Karting06

    Karting06 Well-Known Member Beta tester

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    Yes, it's a small niche market. My friends at the university don't really get it why I'm a simracing. They think that it's simple due to arcade racing. And, that is pity :/
    It is unfortunately not the same market as GTA.
     
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  17. Dale Junior

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    Omg guys … we all are here, because we like R3E. I think there is no question about that, but … it’s a fact, that R3E is too expensive in comparison with "Project CARS" or "Assetto Corsa". If you don’t buy the vRP packs, which you can’t find in the RaceRoom Store, but in the RaceRoom Shop (very customer-friendly and intelligent sales methods :mad: … omg) you have to pay 99,97 € for the complete game! The original price of "Project CARS" or "Assetto Corsa" was around 50 € (no, we don’t talk about discount sale actions)! Currently, Raceroom contains over 130 obliged to pay content elements (over 100 racecars and over 30 racetracks). If I buy only one single car (1/130 of the R3E content), so I will not pay much more than 1/130 of the complete game price! Have a look at the Dream Packs of "Assetto Corsa". There you get 8 - 9 new content elements (7 - 8x cars + 1x laser scanned track) for under 10 €! So there is no doubt, that RaceRoom has to change the price levels!!!

    individual purchase:
    - 1x new car = max. 1,50 € / 150 vRP
    (in consideration of bulk discount for the packs and licenses for the three official racing series)
    - 1x new track = max. 2,00 € / 200 vRP (in consideration of bulk discount for the packs)

    pack purchase:
    - 1x new car = max. 1,00 € / 100 vRP
    - 1x new track = max. 1,50 € / 150 vRP
     
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  18. Patrick van der Meulen

    Patrick van der Meulen Well-Known Member

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    When you compare content of AC to R3E, how can Assetta Corsa + Dream Pack + Porsche Season Pass + 3 individual DLC's at € 88,93 (that's without discount, and as long as AC+Dream Pack is a bundle and the Porsche Season Pass is available) be the pricing example for R3E which costs € 64,99 when you buy a 10.000 vRP pack?

    And when you have the full pack, about everything except tracks comes cheap... And individual tracks for 299 vRP or 499 vRP isn't expensive either. :)

    You can argue about the findability of the vRP packs in the RaceRoom Store. But when I was new to R3E a few months ago, I managed to find them... It's not exactly a secretly hidden thing. And there are regularly notes that points to the existence of the vRP packs.

    So, no, RaceRoom shouldn't change it's price levels. ;)

    And to add to my daydream, how would a sim be if it had the weather system of PC, day/night cycle of AMS, the physics of AMS, RF2 and R3E, the sounds of R3E, the videoquality and it's rendering speed (for me at a single screen 2560x1440 with all settings on high and well over 80 fps with R470 card) of AC. And the UI of R3E... And the content of all combined! :p:D
     
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  19. mmaruda

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    The main issue here is that Raceroom is more focused on racing, and Assetto still struggles in that department, while it does deliver some nice car porn content. Not enough race cars though. The flag rules in Assetto are also kind of just there - I have yet to see them influence the race in some sort - like being told to give back position taken under yellow. Raceroom has that. The only thing that I find better in Assetto in terms of racing recently is the AI. It's not good by any means, but they don't ram me as often as the new AI in Raceroom. It depends on the car and track combo, but it really sucks to be knocked off the track during qualifying and that happens to me only in Raceroom and Project CARS, though the CARS AI seems to respect you somewhat, if you are driving aggressively yourself.

    To sum up, these are two different racing sims with strengths in other departments. But considering the pricing, Raceroom can actually be cheaper. Think of it this way - you don't race every car in the game. Hell, 90% of the vehicles in Assetto is something I don't ever touch - the Lotus 98, the F1 cars, most street cars... The only section of the game that feels like a complete roster is the GT3 stuff and just for that you can get it in Raceroom for less moneys. Especially when it's like 3-4 cars that you fancy. Same goes for tracks, if you are into that GT stuff, you won't really have much use for Maccau.

    In all honesty, my hopes at this moment are with Project CARS 2 - they made enough money with the first game, to actually make the second into what everyone in the simracing community expects. People keep talking about "no sim has everything, so why not get them all", but that is exactly the problem. It's always the waiting game, for features, cars, tracks and such and we jump from one game to another and have these long discussions about which is better at what... It's tiring. Assetto is great at what it does, but it seems to me, like the devs focused more on the Porsche content recently and now they are all about fixing the console release. While Raceroom is always developing, but at a very slow pace. And then there is rFactor 2 which might eventually get somewhere near a complete product.

    Anyhow, each and every sim out there has something special about it and is superior to other in some aspect, so until we get the ultimate experience, we are condemned to race them all.
     
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  20. Karting06

    Karting06 Well-Known Member Beta tester

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    But what I don't like at the moment, is that the sims are released but they aren't finished. Assetto Corsa, R3E, you have the feeling to be member of the beta phase and you have a lot of DLC (Assetto Corsa, Project Cars...). It's okay for R3E because they say that they are a open beta. But, it's already been 4 years, and it's becoming long.