Reputation points

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Thiago Bueno, Aug 5, 2023.

  1. Thiago Bueno

    Thiago Bueno New Member

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    It really is very annoying and tiring to enter a ranked room and people keep hitting you until you are disqualified and lose more than 3 reputation points

    I entered a KTM race in ranked just now and pretty much just got a crash, light touches on the rear, and one guy in particular called neuman who made me spin and get disqualified.... after I passed him

    REPUTATION SYSTEM IS OUTDATED AND MAKES NO SENSE...
    How can someone who is running right... be disqualified because they hit you? How crazy... how unrealistic this is.

    Reputation system is flawed, the formula does not portray the reality of what you did on the track, nor your performance, it's just there to say that you crossed the limit of the track a few times... or had an accident even if you didn't have guilt... and serves to make you lose points.

    I'm really really disappointed with this...
     
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  2. ariookke

    ariookke New Member

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    The problem is precisely that incident points are given on the assumption that both racers are equally to blame for the collision. This is not the case in reality.

    We will never get a real jury for these quick online races in any game, but one immediate suggestion for improvement comes to mind. The driver behind is more responsible because he is the one who gets more information about his opponent before taking a risk. If there is a crash as a result of an overtaking attempt, it is better to punish the driver behind more. The driver in front should be punished even more when he defends his position by blocking (Weaving on straights = Slow down penalty + Incident points). This should not be too difficult to program into the game.
     
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  3. Nico Kunze

    Nico Kunze Well-Known Member

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    Not at all what happens. Incident points dont assume anything, certainly not blame on either or both parties, they merely inform you that youve been involved in an incident
     
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  4. NL-Jos

    NL-Jos Well-Known Member

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    Ranked races are to big to control these after an race
    But for an competition orgnanized by ourself it should be great if there is an incident report easy to download from somewhere
    Now whe get it from raseresults.net and copy it to excell, than filtering on the name of accidents like car to car collision, losing control of the vehicle
    Than we have information to look quicker on the replay to the incidents
     
  5. ShortyBuzzGER

    ShortyBuzzGER Well-Known Member Beta tester

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    If it would be easy we would have it.
    Just look at Gran Turismo or F1 games. They have an automated system to give blame to a driver....and it fails miserably! It basically rolls a dice and gives a penalty to a random person. Absolute garbage.
    The shared fault system is way more fair than the pure randomness. Also titles like iracing use this kind of system as well.
    Sure, things are not perfect and can be improved, but still better than having a system that we would even more complain about after it gives us random penalties.
     
  6. NL-Jos

    NL-Jos Well-Known Member

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    The game noticed several incidents, like off track, car to car, invalid laps.
    What if it is possible to select these things to watch
    For example, i can choose car to car collisison in the replay, it shows me al the car to car collisions after each other.
    After stewarding wil be a lot easyer i think
     
  7. Marco Dempwolf

    Marco Dempwolf Member

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    Hello everyone,

    I have a question and I hope you can answer it . Today I had a very good multiplayer race with a lot of good drivers . I fight for p3 and the car behind me pushed a lot . We have 3 or 4 situation , where the car behind me was a little bit to late on the brake and he knock a bit in my rear . From my point of view normal racing .
    What I didn’t understand , I get some incident points for this ,but I really don’t know why . It wasn’t my fault , it was my corner and I was on the line .
    I hope anybody had the same problem in the past an can answer it.

    thanks a lot and have a good day

    Br

    Marco
     
  8. Leto Tirdania

    Leto Tirdania Member

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    It is very difficult for the server to know whos fault it was, would need some kind of very smart AI I guess.
    So you get 4 incident points and the other driver does also, no matter whos fault it was.
    Some times if the knock is very small there is not given incident points.
    Read about them here: https://raceroom.miraheze.org/wiki/Incident_points
     
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  9. HiCkS

    HiCkS Member

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    Well... I know devs have enough work but, with all those AI's out there, smarter every day. Maybe its time to implement IA as stewards.
     
  10. ThPRacing

    ThPRacing New Member

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    To Forum Admins: Deleting threads is not the best solution. You could have moved the thread to another topic.
    But thats how customers are treated.

    Will keep this in mind.

    Thx for nothing

    And no I don't have saved the Text and don't will write it a second time in onother topic.
     
  11. Andi Goodwin

    Andi Goodwin Moderator Beta tester

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    confused

    what do you mean ?

    Andi
     
  12. ThPRacing

    ThPRacing New Member

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    @Andi: I opened a separate thread to ask for improvement of the reputation system. I was kicked within 1 week 2 times from behind out of track so hard that I lost my engine. Race end and two times from 95% to 86% repution. Was not my fault.
    My question was to get some effort in developing another crash detection.

    But this thread was deleted by admins or whom ever.
     
  13. Andi Goodwin

    Andi Goodwin Moderator Beta tester

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    ok ; normally i can see deleted threads but cant find yours

    Andi
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  14. ThPRacing

    ThPRacing New Member

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    No Problem. Was not here. Had an own Thread title. I only posted here to get some reaction from admin.
     
  15. Nico Kunze

    Nico Kunze Well-Known Member

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    Just in case that info is of any use, i did see the thread in question some time this week