Opinions on New Tire Model

I am not sure about being faster but I can certainly attest to being more consistent - now the only rep points I lose are for collisions or track cuts but much less for spins or losing control. The new car physics just help so much to keep the car on track and not be surprised by unpredictable snappy handling. I can now do full Norsdchleife laps with no penalties and even managed a ranked race with the Gr5 at Nurburgring with 0 penalties. Before, I wouldn´t have even bothered as I know I would have spun off multiple times.

 

You mean you're gaining more time than losing due to slow down? Then I guess report these places too.

 

Have thethe track limits been redone at Spa Raidillon or am I just getting better at taking the corner cleanly?

 

Seems the Audi dtm 92 and Nissan are harder to roll now. The Nissan has also lost its useless 6th gear and no longer feels like it has an oil slick under its tyres. Is that a sign a Gr. A version is coming?

 

And ABS. Now it's a proper fake car: looks like Gr.A, together with liveries and team names, but doesn't work like one. I still think it would be better if it was simply BOPped down.

 

harder but not impossible, always up for a challenge myself
group A gtr, naaaahhhh never happen. banned!!! banned car!!!

 

Car model is different: Group N cars have rear exhaust, not a side one like Gr.A, and usually don't have side skirts. Then liveries and rims and team names also suggest that we're looking at Gr.A cars.

I'm not against Gr.N car but I expect it to look like one and have liveries from Gr.N cars (or at least fantasy ones, if real ones aren't available).

 

its deffo a groupA by model and the base nismo one delivered to calsonic/hks at that, but yeah its group N performance because ... obvious

 

Andi

 

Which temps delta should be aimed now? I see I not even reach 5 degrees with dtm 2023 cars, while I was used to easily reach 10 with three old tyre model. Is less better now?

 

This thread goes into that https://forum.kw-studios.com/index.php?threads/new-tyre-model.19391/ but tbh im still not sure what to aim for

 

Didn't Alex said, 5 degree is now the number to aim for, at least for modern cars with modern tires, like GT3.

 

He did say that. But he also said that you shouldnt need to change more than a few clicks from default setup which at least for me contradicts the 5 degree rule of thumb. But then he also said that on most circuits youll need slightly asymmetric setups and the outside tires need to be absolutely maximised in terms of camber and pressure and also the more you can get the inside tire working the better at which point i gave up trying to understand it

 

Doesn't that mean that your outside tyres should be your priority, and the rest of the performance comes from what you can extract from inside tyres?

 

It might mean that but to me that then would ultimately sound like try to optimise both (but perhaps worry less if the inside is not as ideal). But what does optimising even mean in this case? Get something close to a 5 degree delta? Thatd bring me back to having to do huge changes from default which just a couple sentences earlier he said shouldnt ever be neccessary..
(To be fair he did also say to properly get it right youd need to also look at telemetry stuff but i suspect a very low percentage of players will do that so having a rule of thumb that doesnt contradict itself would be nice )

 

It seems to me that adding a lot of camber no longer gives free speed, need to see about reducing toe in/out and rake.

 

It wasn't exactly free, tyre wear increased with it.