Well, in all honesty, I'm looking more forward to the track than the car but, still, the car will be a nice addition to the GT2 class.
yeah same, but i dont know that ill be running it much. any layout other than cup config is not exactly my bag, as a driver i prefer the flowing tracks a lot more.
Oh great, another tintop, how about some open wheelers?! The only reason i don't drive this as much as i could is because there are no open wheelers. If you want me to spend money on this sim and good amounts of it then you really need to release some open wheelers, there are a large number of ow fans out there that i am sure think the same way as me.
well sonoma is an indycar track so dont you think this could be a sign? btw it was months ago but i asked jay eckkel & he said open wheelers were either being worked on or very much on the table
That may be so yusupov but i have not heard anything about ow, it would be nice to hear a bit more news about this to give me some hope or i could just stop with r3e as there is certainly plenty of other options but in my opinion nothing beats the look of the tracks in r3e, its just a shame i don't have any of my fave type of car to race it on . We could also say that silverstone, imola and monza are ow tracks but they have been out for a long time without any ow content.
Simbin's pedigree is in tintop race cars so it should be no surprise that R3E is built on touring and GT cars. Some open-wheelers would be nice but it's not an expectation from me personally.
i would expect it but doubt its a priority. in race07 there were some generic open wheelers & i expect there to be for R3E...i know ill buy & im sure there are many others. nevertheless i love what theyve done w/ recent content.
I'm not really bothered about fake F1 cars. Recent F1 cars don't really do it for me. Some lower powered open-wheelers like Formula Ford would be cool. I'm sure I read that Formula 3 cars could be coming to R3E? I'd be quite happy with that.
honestly can't understand why theres so much hate for the new F1 cars, theyre great fun...but yeah i agree overall, i prefer (significantly) slower cars 90% of the time
I read somewhere recently that the current game engine doesn't support a suspension model for open wheelers (or something to that effect). I think this was mentioned by one of the devs but I'm not 100% certain. Either way, it doesn't sound like it's something that'll be coming anytime soon. And, while I would certainly welcome some open wheelers into this sim (especially those from late 70's - early 90's) their exclusion is only a mild disappointment for me. I've always preferred tin tops, especially GT's. I think Sector3 really has this sim pointed in the right direction. Seems like pretty much everything they've released recently has been a home run and Sonoma looks like it might just be the best looking track yet. Terrific attention to detail. Can't wait.
Yes, they mentioned this in a devstream a while back. But I don't think it had to do with their game engine doesn't support it. If I remember correctly some open wheel is in the plans, but they need to work out and implement a suspension animation for it first. I can be wrong though!.. .
The original ISI engine (S3 is partly using) was built for their F1 Series back 15 Years, so I don't think it is not possible, while Simbin/S3 made their own thing out of it (GT-based)... I raced Grand Prix and F12002/99-02, but Formula One never caught me the way "real cars" do, cause nowadays you need to know more about avionics than about classical racedriving . And what I also don`t like is the commercial aspect around F1 - like circus-drivers participating in a global (hyped) Circus-Contest, becoming a lot of attention like some lame MTV Popstars, while the independent artist (the usual non-prominent professional racedriver without high-profile sponsoring) has to put his vids and concerts somewhere at YouTube. Btw. I was so happy Simbin came out with their first GT Mod while everybody was following the F1-Hype that time.... But to check out one of the classic beasts Senna &Co (or Lauda and Hunt) were driving, well, why not ?
Here I have to laugh (no offense) because "Laserscanned" for me is just some typical Marketing thingy, like all the products today trying to appear more than what it actually is: "Now with 25% more content !", "Better Recipe!"or "Here you get a huge new shiny box with actually the same shit like before!" Someone started that reign and now everyone's got to have "LASERSCANNED" (at all cost, even if its the last thing I own) .. Just remember the demo-vid with Gary Paffet, driving the real Oschersleben and the DTME version - its on par, without a doubt and without "LASERSCANNING"
Fully agree with you on that point. Maybe for a few people who have driven a circuit will recognise an exact bump here or there, for the rest of us I doubt we could tell the difference if we weren't being TOLD the difference. That did prompt me to ask some questions about laser scanning in the Dev Stream thread though, as I'm intrigued to know if it does offer benefits for the modellers, and I would have the same question about CAD models for cars (which I seem to remember SMS' modellers saying didn't save them much time, but it was a handy reference).
'Laser scanned' is too often used as a byword for quality. I'm not doubting that laser scanning provides excellent accuracy but in the end a well-built track is a well-built track, regardless of the methods used. I agree with the last two posts, particularly with what @Rodger Davies said about the exact location of surface bumps and features. As the majority of people playing these sims never have - or never will - drive these circuits, such detail isn't important in the grand scheme of things. Take rF2 Silverstone vs AC Silverstone for example - the latter was laser scanned yet both tracks feel good to me. In fact I think rF2's version looks better. Besides, as ISI's Tim Wheatley said, laser scanning provides a snapshot in time of the track's surface. As the surface wears and is resurfaced, that laser scanned data is worth little more than a non-laser scanned version.
[QUOTE="Fairman, post: 1529, member: 382" Here I have to laugh (no offense) because "Laserscanned" for me is just some typical Marketing thingy, like all the products today trying to appear more than what it actually is[/QUOTE] No offense taken at all! I thought the same initially (and I still have some doubts in regards as pointed out in the different posts above) but overall I do think that it's a very important step forward to improve current method/technology... could you imagine if they never researched and improved VR... where the Oculus would be now?
I agree in some ways, not all tracks need to be laser scanned, Im very impressed with R3E's tracks except for the US track Mid Ohio, Ive driven that track in real life and it feels wrong. But the majority of the tracks are fun and provide for good racing regardless the precision they may lack. I will say, for tracks that have certain elevation changes and cambered corners, I feel laser scanning is best for that, I speak mainly for the Nordschleife since that track has infinite amount of angles and elevation changes, plus when you have iRacing and AC scanning it, I would want the same too. Come on its the Nord, one of the most famous tracks in the world, either you like it or not, it demands and deserves accuracy.