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juan Fafian · Oct 3, 2017

1978rocafella said: ↑

hi @ChatCureuil thanks and np, appreciate any help. what do you do to prevent oscillation? on some older content vehicles (like GT2 or GT1 cars) I have oscillating wheel in straights? why is that?
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I do not own a ddw, but imo lowering the lateral forces almost to cero, feelings are greatly improved.

ChatCureuil · Oct 3, 2017

juan Fafian said: ↑

lowering the lateral forces almost to cero
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I find this strange, imo this is the most important setting, but I never tried without so I'll give a test for curiosity. Do you still feel when car is oversteering?

juan Fafian · Oct 3, 2017

ChatCureuil said: ↑

I find this strange, imo this is the most important setting, but I never tried without so I'll give a test for curiosity. Do you still feel when car is oversteering?
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yes, with low lateral forces in any sim, and especially in r3e, is the more I feel every detail

fl0wf1r3 · Oct 3, 2017

1978rocafella said: ↑

@ChatCureuil thanks for offering your help. (i have a OSW - small MiGE with IONI Pro HC)

here are the RCS file details for my controller setup:

Code:

Name="OSW FFB System"
ReadOnly="0"
Device Count="4"
Device Weight="0" // Only used on predetermined devices to prioritize them when starting game first time
Keyboard Steering="0.2"
Keyboard Throttle="0.5"
Keyboard Brake="0.5"
Keyboard Clutch="0.2"
Analog interpolate sector1="0.0"
Analog interpolate sector2="0.0"
Analog interpolate sector3="0.0"
Analog interpolate return multiplier="4.0" // Interpolate speed multiplier when the wheels are returning towards the center
Force Feedback="1"
Mouse Steering="0" // Use mouse left/right movement to steer
Gear Select Button Hold="0" // Enable this option if using a gear select device that holds down a joystick button while in a gear and releases all buttons in neutral (such as the Act-Labs USB Shifter)
Alternate Rearlook Activation="1" // if left look and right look are both pressed, rearlook becomes activated
HMD Pitch Exponent="1.0" // Exponent to apply to pitch tracking.  > 1.0 makes tracking near-center slower, > 0 & < 1.0 makes tracking near-center faster.
HMD Yaw Exponent="1.0" // Exponent to apply to yaw tracking.  > 1.0 makes tracking near-center slower, > 0 & < 1.0 makes tracking near-center faster.
HMD Roll Exponent="1.0" // Exponent to apply to roll tracking.  > 1.0 makes tracking near-center slower, > 0 & < 1.0 makes tracking near-center faster.
Options Num Controls="132" // Number of configurable controls displayed in options
Freelook Mouse Pitch Speed="0.001" // Freelook pitch speed when using mouse.
Freelook Mouse Yaw Speed="0.001" // Freelook yaw speed when using mouse.
Freelook Keyboard Pitch Speed="1.5" // Freelook pitch speed when using keyboard.
Freelook Keyboard Pitch Accel="4.0" // Freelook pitch acceleration when using keyboard.
Freelook Keyboard Pitch Decel="4.0" // Freelook pitch deceleration when using keyboard.
Freelook Keyboard Yaw Speed="1.5" // Freelook yaw speed when using keyboard.
Freelook Keyboard Yaw Accel="4.0" // Freelook Yaw acceleration when using keyboard.
Freelook Keyboard Yaw Decel="4.0" // Freelook Yaw deceleration when using keyboard.
Freelook Up Limit="0.1" // Freelook Up Limit, between 0 and 0.25.
Freelook Down Limit="-0.15" // Freelook Down Limit, between 0 and -0.25.
G27 Led range low="0.81" // Min: 0.00, Max: 1.00, Default: 0.81
G27 Led range high="0.96" // Min: 0.00, Max: 1.00, Default: 0.96
Steer Ratio Speed="0.0" // Speed at which low speed steering lock override ends (for pit navigation, units are meters/sec, 0.0 to
Shift Delta Time="0.05" // Minimum time between shifts
Clutch Grip Curve Exponent="3" // Exponential of clutch grip curve, for clutch engage behaviour
Led Display Enabled="1" // Steering Wheel Led Display Enabled
Setup Control Set="0" // used in menus to determine if walkthrough setup should run when entering C
Speed Sensitive Steering="0.0"
Speed Sensitive Steering Minimum Speed, in meters/second="36.1111107"
Speed Sensitive Steering Maximum Speed, in meters/second="66.6666641"
FFB Device Name="none"
FFB Device Name Alternative="none"
FFB Rumble Pad="0" // Type of FFB controller:  0=wheel, joystick etc with force feedback, 1 = pad with rumble motor
FFB Gain="1.0" // Strength of Force Feedback effects.  Range 0.0 to 1.0.
FFB Min Force="0.0" // Minumum force, from 0.0 to 1.0
FFB Min Force Linear Percentage="0.01" // Minumum force linear percentage
FFB Throttle FX on steer axis="1" // 0 = Throttle effects on throttle axis, 1 = throttle effects on steering axis.
FFB Brake FX on steer axis="1" // 0 = Brake effects on brake axis, 1 = brake effects on steering axis.
FFB stationary friction="0.0" // Amount of friction applied to the steering wheel when vehicle is stationary
FFB stationary friction speed="2.7780001" // Below this speed the stationary friction starts to be applied, in m/s
FFB steer vibe freq mult="0.0" // Controls frequency of steering vibration. Recommended: 0.5 to 1.0, 0.0 disables steering vibration.
FFB steer vibe zero magnitude="0.0" // Magnitude of steering vibration at 0mph (reference point).
FFB steer vibe slope="0.0" // Slope of line defining magnitude as a function of frequency (used with FFB steer vibe zero magnitude).
FFB steer vibe wave type="0" // Type of wave to use for vibe: 0=Sine, 1=Square, 2=Triangle, 3=Sawtooth up, 4=Sawtooth down.
FFB steer force average weight="1.0" // How much weight is given to new steering force calculations each frame (0.01 - 1.0). Lower values will smooth out the steering force, but will also add latency.
FFB steer force exponent="1.0" // Steering force output "sensitivity".  Range 0.0 to infinity.  0.0 to 1.0 = higher sensitivity, greater than 1.0 = lower sensitivity.
FFB steer force input max="11500.0" // Recommended: 11500 (-11500 if controller pulls in the wrong direction).
FFB steer force output max="0.4" // Maximum force output of steering force, recommendation 0.8 to 2.0
FFB steer force grip weight="1.0" // Range 0.0 to 1.0, recommended: 0.4 to 0.9.  How much weight is given to tire grip when calculating steering force.
FFB steer force front grip exponent="0.1" // Range 0.0 to infinity, recommended: around 1.0.  Exponent applied to grip weight.
FFB steer force rear grip exponent="2.0" // Range 0.0 to infinity, recommended: around 1.0.  Exponent applied to rear grip loss weight.
FFB steer damper coefficient="0.0" // Coefficient to use for steering damper.  Range: -1.0 to 1.0
FFB steer damper saturation="0.0" // Saturation value to use for steering damper.  Range: 0 - 1.0
FFB steer force balance mode="2" // Mode for how to add the steering forces together (lateral, load and diff).  Acceptable values: 0 = lat + load + diff, 1 = sqrt(lat^2 + load^2 + diff^2), 2 = sqrt(lat^2 + load^2) + diff, 3 = sqrt(lat^2 + (load + diff)^2), 4 = sqrt((lat + load)^2 + diff^2)
FFB steer load multiplier="1.0" // Multiplier for vertical load on front tires.  Range: 0 - infinity
FFB steer lateral multiplier="1.0" // Multiplier for lateral forces.  Range: 0 - infinity
FFB steer rack factor="1.0" // How much of the lateral forces comes from steering rack.  Range: 0 - 1.0
FFB steer load change exponent="1.0" // Exponent for the change in load on front tires.  Range: 0 - infinity
FFB steer load change breakpoint="1.0" // Breakpoint (value that will not be changed) for the exponent on the change in load on front tires.  Range: 0 - infinity
FFB steer spring coefficient="0.0" // Coefficient for steering spring. Range: 0.0 - 1.0
FFB throttle vibe freq mult="0.0" // Scales actual engine frequency to force FFB vibration frequency.  Suggested range: 0.10 to 0.50
FFB throttle vibe zero magnitude="0.0" // Magnitude of engine vibration at 0rpm (reference point).
FFB throttle vibe slope="0.0" // Slope of line defining magnitude as a function of frequency (used with FFB throttle vibe zero magnitude).
FFB throttle vibe wave type="0" // Type of wave to use for vibe: 0=Sine, 1=Square, 2=Triangle, 3=Sawtooth up, 4=Sawtooth down.
FFB rumble strip magnitude="0.0" // How strong the rumble strip rumble is.  Range 0.0 to 1.0, 0.0 disables effect.
FFB rumble strip freq mult="0.0" // Rumble stip frequency multiplier 1.0 = one rumble per wheel rev.
FFB rumble strip wave type="0" // Type of wave to use for vibe: 0=Sine, 1=Square, 2=Triangle, 3=Sawtooth up, 4=Sawtooth down.
FFB rumble strip pull factor="0.0" // How strongly wheel pulls right/left when running over a rumble strip. Suggested range: -1.5 to 1.5.
FFB jolt magnitude="0.0" // How strong jolts from other cars (or walls) are.  Suggested Range: -2.0 to 2.0.
FFB shift jolt magnitude="0.0" // How strong jolts you get from shifting.  Suggested Range: -2.0 to 2.0.
FFB shift effect duration="0.0" // Duration of shift effect in seconds
FFB slip effect="0.0" // Slip effect, from 0.0 to 1.0
ffb slip freq multiplier="1.0" // Slip effect frequency. 1.0f = 1 cycle per wheel rev
ffb slip wave type="0" // Slip effect wave type
FFB pedal throttle vibe zero magnitude="0.0" // Throttle pedal vibration at 0rpm (reference point)
FFB pedal throttle vibe slope="0.0"
FFB pedal throttle slip vibe="0.0" // Throttle pedal vibration on tire slip
FFB pedal brake slip vibe="1.0" // Brake pedal vibration on front tire slip
FFB pedal brake vibe slope="0.6" // Slope for brake pedal vibration based on speed and braking %
spring based range lock enabled="1" // Spring based range lock on/off
spring based range lock strength="1.0" // Strength of the spring based range lock
spring based range lock max rotation="540" // Max wheel rotation, used when setting up spring based range lock
Menu Control - Left Click="(0, 89, 0, 8)"
Menu Control - Right Click="(0, 89, 0, 8)"
Menu Control - Back="(0, 89, 0, 8)"
File Version="3"
DeviceName[00]="MMos ForceFeedback 2014"

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Hello, do you speak German? This guy has OSW as well and did some great videos about the settings in RaceRoom. Without understanding the German language it might be to complicated to follow.

1978rocafella · Oct 3, 2017

interesting video, will have to test around.

ChatCureuil · Oct 3, 2017

juan Fafian said: ↑

yes, with low lateral forces in any sim, and especially in r3e, is the more I feel every detail
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As expected, 5% of lateral force makes the FFB almost useless, I don't get informations about oversteer/understeer and wheel is loose. Didn't you mean "vertical force"? I removed it in the past (especially for trying drift) and actually set it lower than lateral forces.

Case · Oct 17, 2017

I was wondering... Let's say I set my wheel (T300) to default settings both in the wheel's control panel and in the game. There will still be pretty big differences between how various cars feel when it comes to FFB - not just in amount of information, but also in strength.

So...is there a "gold standard" car that, assuming I have everything set to default, will give me the ideal intended FFB experience, so I know what to aim for in the other cars? Or are all cars set as intended and the differences in FFB feel are also intended and down to...well, differences between the cars?

Also, one thing I've noticed...supposedly in AMS, all cars have the FFB set with a minor clipping in mind. Yet the FFB in AMS, even when set to 100 % in-game, feels quite noticeably weaker than FFB in R3E does, even with peak forces at say 2/3 of the clipping point according to the FFB meter, so nowhere near mild clipping. Why is that? Shouldn't it feel fairly similar in strength?

mikespirit69 · Oct 23, 2017

Does anyone have FFB settings for the Thrustmaster TMX Wheel?

Grincheux-gts · Oct 29, 2017

Bonjour j'ai possédé une base fanatec v2.5 .. qu'est ce qu'il y a a propos de la réglementation ffb faut mettre ds le jeu de raceroom si oui on pourrait te mettre ta reglement ds le jeu ainsi que les reglements a placer sur ton volant
thank you so much

ROMGTR · Dec 28, 2017

Hello, does anyone have a decent ffb setting for Fanatec csl.

Thanks in advanced

OlivierMDVY · Dec 29, 2017

ROMGTR said: ↑

Hello, does anyone have a decent ffb setting for Fanatec csl.

Thanks in advanced
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Here you are:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1DS6ysuVTvVkj9tfWMJIr5g-VZyNZHBCY

Metalogic · Jan 8, 2018

Hi - after over 9 months of not being able to use my wheel for various reasons, last night I finally got my Wheelstand Pro out of the loft and starting bolting on my (secondhand) Fanatec pedals and T300 wheel. I had also uninstalled Raceroom and think I lost all my FFB settings. With the current version of Raceroom, which I can see has had quite a few changes in the last year, what are the current recommend FFB settings for the Thrustmaster T300 wheel? If these have already been posted somewhere in this thread, please just direct me to the most relevant post(s). I just have updated my T300 to the latest firmware. Thanks!

Case · Jan 13, 2018

@Metalogic The default settings?

ChatCureuil · Jan 13, 2018

There's some TS-PC Racer setups here, it could be a good start for T300, then don't hesitate to try your own values.

Case · Jan 13, 2018

Just for the record - I have the T300 and I honestly find the defaults to be very good, it wasn't just me trying to brush him off with a non-answer.

Metalogic · Jan 13, 2018

Case said: ↑

Just for the record - I have the T300 and I honestly find the defaults to be very good, it wasn't just me trying to brush him off with a non-answer.
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No worries, am trying the defaults and will see how I get one with them

eddyedwards10 · Feb 2, 2018

Hi

I have just bought a new Thrustmaster wheel - not sure how to set it up but managed to get it working but even in a straight line it vibrates like crazy even at slow speeds - does anyone know if this is normal or do I have to change settings?

Thanks for any help

FormelLMS · Feb 2, 2018

You have to lower the min force settings I think.

JakkeFin · Feb 2, 2018

Try set force feedback minimum force setting to 15% or less

spyshagg · Feb 2, 2018

Case said: ↑

Just for the record - I have the T300 and I honestly find the defaults to be very good, it wasn't just me trying to brush him off with a non-answer.
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The default settings for the T300 are pretty bad for me. Could barely feel the tire loads.

I now use these settings and it feels much better
https://forum.sector3studios.com/index.php?threads/setting-for-t300rs.4647/#post-62819

I believe it dropped the steering rack option by a lot, and now I can feel the load on the tires much better.

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