FFB Guide

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Sector3, Jan 22, 2015.

  1. M-Bimmer

    M-Bimmer Well-Known Member

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  2. sherpa25

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    Any translation to the T300?
     
  3. ravey1981

    ravey1981 Well-Known Member Beta tester

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    I'll post you my t300 settings later
     
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  4. ravey1981

    ravey1981 Well-Known Member Beta tester

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    My T300 settings

    Thrustmaster software...
    Overall 100
    Constant 100
    Periodic 100
    Spring 0
    Damper 100 IMPORTANT
    Auto-centre by game

    Raceroom settings
    FFB Intensity 90
    smoothing 5
    spring 0
    damper 80 IMPORTANT

    steering force intensity 80
    minimum force 20 IMPORTANT
    understeer 50
    vert load 70
    lateral force 44
    steering rack 100

    slip effect 50
    engine 0
    kerbs 100
    shift effect 0
    collision effect 200
     
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  5. Whipdiddywhip

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    here's my settings, or at least i still use similar and the same principles still apply for me

     
  6. ravey1981

    ravey1981 Well-Known Member Beta tester

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    I don't really agree with a lot of what he is saying, the fact he has little weight in the wheel is because he's not running any damper. Everyone should try damper, It makes a massive difference.
     
  7. Whipdiddywhip

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    why would anyone want damper? its artificial weight that mutes detail
     
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  8. ravey1981

    ravey1981 Well-Known Member Beta tester

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    Damper simulates the natural friction and hence weight in a steering system. Without it it's like steering in a kart that is up on jacks, there literally is nothing there. In any car there is always some weight in the steering regardless of whether the car is turning and hence tyres are loaded. Try 15-20%. The physics dev is running damper so that says something....
     
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  9. Whipdiddywhip

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    i have natural damper set to 5 on my DD1, very low

    but i will try your suggestions if you have some
     
  10. ravey1981

    ravey1981 Well-Known Member Beta tester

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    Not sure how it works on fanatec but on TM wheels you set the total available damper in TM software...so 100. Then the in game value is a percentage of that. I have 80 in game because I like heavy steering. In truth, I am pushing this wheelbase too hard so it's a compromise.

    If fanatec works the same then even at 100 in game you might only be getting your 5%, if that makes sense.

    @Alex Hodgkinson is now using fanatec in development so he might be able to give a better answer.

    General consensus is to use some in game damper and steering rack on 100. Adjust steering forces from there. Canned effects are to taste. I have most off but I like loads of kerb.
     
  11. Whipdiddywhip

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    the fanatec is done on the harware with natural damper, it changes in real time

    steering rack at 100 makes it feel like some cars have next to zero resistance to me

    i'll try upping the natural damper to 20%
     
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  12. RoccoTTS

    RoccoTTS Well-Known Member

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    If you want some more explanation about good ffb settings, read this post.
     
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  13. Whipdiddywhip

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    i see thomas has the same opinion as me on understeer, default is way too high and makes some cars feel weightless

    he uses tyre force instead of rack where as i use 50/50
     
  14. RoccoTTS

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    His settings are a game changer for me.
     
  15. ravey1981

    ravey1981 Well-Known Member Beta tester

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    As well as personal preference it seems like wheelbase type makes a lot of difference. When I moved from Logitech to TM I had to make a whole load of changes. I think with FFB there isn't a one size fits all option.
     
  16. Thomas Jansen

    Thomas Jansen Sector3 Developer Beta tester

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    The main reason I avoid steering rack is that it seems to do weird stuff with FWD cars like WTCR, no idea why it does that.. I would recommend using the in game damper over the fanatec damper, as the fanatec damper is like a blanket solution, you just always have a certain resistance at a certain velocity. The in game damper is somewhat dynamic afaik, so it is there when it should, but also doesn't impede you when it shouldn't.

    I started playing with that a while after i last posted my findings, so never mentioned it.
     
  17. ravey1981

    ravey1981 Well-Known Member Beta tester

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    I'll have a go with no rack tonight, it's a constant evolution is ffb settings....
     
  18. Whipdiddywhip

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    ive just been testing, with higher dampening

    i reduced understeer down to 7%

    all the cars actually feel connected to the road now

    i have lateral on 60
    vertical on 50
    understeer 7
    steering rack on 0

    and adjust strength according to your wheel and then on a per car basis

    the understeer effect in RR is the biggest culprit of poor ffb and feeling unconnected to the road in my opinion, with it significantly lower the cars feel weighty and connect to the road better
     
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  19. FormelLMS

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    You don't have to understeer, so you can't feel understeer and you feel connected.

    But, alright, understeer I have lowered to 20 and it's okay :)
     
  20. Whipdiddywhip

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    yes but in RR it seems understeer effect comes in at the slightest hint of any tyre slip, it's far too overblown
     
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