Intelligent Setup Advisor

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  1. TheBigO

    TheBigO Well-Known Member

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    When it comes to race cars, the vast amount of available options when developing a setup for a specific track and the personal driving style can be overwhelming - and this not only for the beginners. Most of us know some thump rules, for example: "Increase the rear wing angle to increase the rear stabiliity in fast corners and under heavy braking". But only a few of us know all the little tricks to create the best possible compromise for a given driver / car / track combination. And it will always be a compromise, since many requirements are contradictory.

    Welcome to "Setup Advisor"...

    Setup Advisor.JPG

    This tool is a member of the Simulator Controller suite (more can be found here: https://github.com/SeriousOldMan/Simulator-Controller). However, since this tool can be used independently, I can make it available to you here as an independent standalone solution, but also as an entry drug for the complete suite, so to speak.

    Update: The Setup Advisor is now only available as part of the full package. It can still be used independently, but it shares some code and libraries. Therefore follow this download link: https://github.com/SeriousOldMan/Simulator-Controller#latest-release-build

    Documentation: https://github.com/SeriousOldMan/Simulator-Controller/wiki/Setup-Advisor

    And now have fun with your Setups.

    P.S. If you want to learn more about Simulator Controller, join us on our Discord Server https://discord.gg/5N8JrNr48H.
     
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  2. Torned The Bullet

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    Does it read the game information in real time or does it generate a .setup file?
     
  3. TheBigO

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    No, not yet. Maybe in the future. For now it tells you, which setup changes might help you with a specific issue, like understeer on slow corner entry.
     
  4. Mike Kara

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    I'm not green in setup work but this looks interesting and can save some time gonna try it for sure
     
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    I didn't understand well how it interacts with Raceroom and how I generate the ".setup", can you explain me? Thanks
     
  6. Mike Kara

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    it doesn't interact at all

    this helps by providing u tips what should u change to fix indicated "problem" and can be used in any racing game with proper physics

    the only thing I don't fully understand is description of "differential preload"
    "more opening resistance" means more nm in setup?
    and after short testing I'm little bit confused by "toe rear" setting because for eg on general understeer characteristics with high severity it shows negative value which means "less toe out" via manual which means "more toe in" which means that it should increase understeer tendency even more isn't it?
     
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  7. TheBigO

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    I think, you're right.

    Will take a look. General most race cars have toe out values, even at the rear. For understeer, it means more toe out at the front and less toe out at the rear. But you are right, if you are running a car which is running already toe in value at the rear, more won't help. Therefore, "Setup Advisor" gives you only hints, you have still to understand, what you are doing.
     
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    The tool has been updated. If you haven't switched to the full package, which supports automated update installations, please reinstall "Setup Advisor" using the download link above.
     
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  9. Mike Kara

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    never saw toe out at the rear in any game tbh even in alien setups
     
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    As I said, I will take a look.
     
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    Okay, most cars run undeed toe in at the rear. Surprisingly, I run a little bit of toe out with 720s on many tracks to make it more lively. But I will reverse the recommendation, so that it is correct for the greater part and I will mention the problem in the documentation. Thanks for the heads up...
     
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    Another update has been uploaded. Please reinstall "Setup Advisor" using the download link above.
     
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    There's something new again. Setup Advisor can now read and edit ACC setup files. However, the implementation required deeper integration with other basic components of the "Simulator Controller" software package, so that the tool is no longer available independently for technical reasons. So you have to download and install the entire package, but you will also receive automatic updates in the future.
    Of course, you can still use the Advisor independently without having to use the other components.

    You can get the whole package here: https://github.com/SeriousOldMan/Simulator-Controller#latest-release-build

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    The Setup Advisor now can compare setups and will show you the differences. You can even merge two different setups to create a new one with mixed properties for example when building a setup for mixed conditions in an endurance race.

    Setup Editor 3.JPG

    As I mentioned above, the Setup Advisor is only available as part of the Simulator Controller tool suite, but it still can be used completely stand alone.

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    Created a short video with a demo and explanation for Setup Advisor:
     
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