Is the lift off steering in wtcr too much ?

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  1. ChatCureuil

    ChatCureuil Well-Known Member

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    I already lost my IRL FWD in a slow corner under rain, I was just testing the grip limit of this slow car (a small Renault Clio), doing wide circles on wet asphalt with new tires, and I just wasn't able to lose it while accelerating, but at the instant I decided to stop the test and released the throttle, the car immediately spun and I got totally surprised! :D The speed was around 40-50 km/h only... :)
     
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  2. GooseCreature

    GooseCreature Well-Known Member

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    No!
     
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  3. ravey1981

    ravey1981 Well-Known Member Beta tester

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    I don't drive these much but had a good run out in the Seat last night (I'm not calling it a cupra....) and I found it to be really good. Sure if you jump out of the throttle going into a corner it's gonna come around but drive progressively and it's very predictable. Definitely going to drive these a bit more.

    As with any car, you have to work out how it wants to be driven, it's no good just applying the same technique to all cars. That's half the fun of SIM driving for me, learning new things.
     
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  4. benoityip

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    Driving WTCR in Bathurst is scary. I have been crashing a lot in the long straight banking right where speed is 250km/h. No brake is involved in that corner. I cannot full throttle that corner now. I am still figuring the driving style for that corner so that I can flat out full throttle
     
  5. ravey1981

    ravey1981 Well-Known Member Beta tester

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    Do you mean the slight right into the chase?
     
  6. benoityip

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    Yes, please let me know how to drive that, I am on full throttle with no brakes and still spun out... Car is on maximum wing in wtcr2018

    Edit Later: I fixed my driving style and it is no longer an issue
     
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  7. ravey1981

    ravey1981 Well-Known Member Beta tester

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    I will try it when I get chance but I see no reason you can't go flat through there.
     
  8. Alex Hodgkinson

    Alex Hodgkinson Sector3 Developer

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    Just did a few laps with the RS3 at Bathurst on default setup and had no problems at that right kink.
    What controller are you using and did you change from the default steering ratio?
     
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  9. benoityip

    benoityip Member

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    @Alex Hodgkinson
    My apology, I fixed my driving style and it is no longer an issue
     
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  10. Alex Hodgkinson

    Alex Hodgkinson Sector3 Developer

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    Good to read!

    It would be useful for others if you explained here what exactly you are doing differently now. I'm sure somebody else could learn from your experiences.
     
  11. benoityip

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    I might be wrong. This is my sharing

    Bathurst is a circuit that is very challenging to drive fast. There are few challenging corners require trial braking carefully. For example, the braking at the very top of the mountain. My pb in Bathurst in a BMW try is 2:03.1, not too fast, not slow at all.

    In wtcr, because the front of the car is more responsive now, the steering wheel is much more sensitive. Turning the wheel too much can upset rear of the car very easily. Trial braking is another challenging area. It now requires the wheel to be more straight to brake the car

    All I need to is to turn the wheel less when entering some corners
     
  12. RLeicht

    RLeicht New Member

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    So I'm very new to raceroom and played project cars 2 on xbox for a few months, but then put everything down for about a year. Finally decided to get my computer up and running and play some raceroom. This being said, I dont track cars but I do have a fwd car that I drive hard that has a ton of lift off oversteer, so going into this I knew what was possible and what could happen.

    So I decided to get on brands hatch because I knew 2 of the corners would produce a lot of lift off oversteer, took a few laps to figure them out but then jumped on the leader board to try it out. Placed 13th, then jumped over to zandvoort, a track I have never drove before and placed 39. All with the default set up on the golf gti tcr.

    Now I have been driving for a week and was doing this on the get real setting. It's all about driving habits and styles. If you are use to driving rwd vehicles then it's going to be harder to drive one. Just need to slow down and practice. If you are not driving the correct line for that type of car. It's going to be very tricky.

    Hopefully this helped a little.
     
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  13. RLeicht

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    So, after writing this I realized I had been driving the 2018 version so i bought the 2019. After 2 minutes of driving, I was able to adjust my driving and was staying on the track. Just need to have clean lines because the car is less forgiving. But like mentioned before. If you watch the races, the cars have a very loose rear end. Which can be used to your advantage once figured out.

    Like on my fwd fiesta st, at first I thought the car sucked, but once I learned how to use the lift off over steer to my advantage. I became faster and the ride was a whole lot more fun.
     
  14. Nico Kunze

    Nico Kunze Well-Known Member

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    The two years are on the same physics so the differences should be minor at best
     
  15. RLeicht

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    I was suprises by the difference really. Did not think it would be so different
     
  16. ravey1981

    ravey1981 Well-Known Member Beta tester

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    There are no differences. The cars from both years are exactly the same.
     
  17. Alex Hodgkinson

    Alex Hodgkinson Sector3 Developer

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    It depends on the car. If we're talking about the Alfa Romeos, the 2019 version gained a decent bit of downforce over the 2018 version.
     
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  18. RLeicht

    RLeicht New Member

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    I noticed a difference. Did have a little more lift off oversteer. But very manageable, I'm slow and suck but I actually like it because my actual car has a ton of it.