My Saleen S7R 3motion Silverstone & Nürburgring Quali & Race setups - what am I doing wrong?

Not that strange.
The leaderboard laps use running starts (for lack of a better phrase), but you're usually able to get a better exit-speed off the final corner when on a true flying lap, meaning your speed as you cross the timing-line is higher.

 

Agree on that. But you still have that advantage on your 3rd 4th.. lap so unless he actually burns his brakes over the course of two laps i still find it strange

 

Ah...I only run two laps at a time. Maybe I should try more!!!

 

Well then that mysterys finally solved
But if you only drive a few laps and are surprised youre not quite keeping up with the aliens then you must be thinking of yourself as some sort of super alien ;D
The amount of time some of those guys practice and fine tune is incredible

 

Occured to me a moment after i replied as well but didnt bother to do anything about it
Either way it might help going for a few more laps at once to build a better rythm but i guess hes gotta try that for himself and see if it actually helps

 

Sooooo, I spun in Round 2 race....a confession....I can not go to Germany for the final so I didn't want to finish top 7. Unfortunately I lost my job and just can't justify the outlay until I can secure another position. Some people may now say why did I join and not leave a space open for others to try who can.....my defence.... to put my name out there and attract some attention. However, I will not be accepting further invites even if I qualify as this didn't work. I was using my Nurb quali tune for the race, which I tested at race distance and worked fine, just very slippery tyres (tires) last 2 / 3 laps. It's a bit twitchy and requires full concentration.....which by trying not to push too hard (there were a couple of weak dives as a result for example) I ended up spinning from lack of concentration. All on my own.

Anyhow....I will return to the Silverstone Quali and race setup as I learned a bit more about setups in RRE. Will also upload my Nurb quali / race setup here too. FYI if you're interested, here are the quali times and sectors at Nurb : https://1drv.ms/x/s!Am6_3LZbdmzPj_xSRa2ghdI1yt2lCg

 

Theres no problem finishing a race in the top 7 and not going to the final. You just gotta let robert wiesenmüller know soon enough and then the driver in 8th of your race will receive an invitation for the final. So if you wanna race theres no reason not to

 

Here is my Nurb round 2 quali and race setup. I put the front & rear toe all the way negative and left the camber all the way up for the race after testing race distance with the quali setup. It worked, albeit a handful, especially last 2 / 3 laps. A little like driving on an icy road towards the end! The lap times in the majority where worth trying it for round 2 imho.

Watching 'The Reality of Competitive Sim Racing' by Austin Ogonoski below, I noticed when he covers RRE a setup with lots of values at min or max values, so tried this and for round 2 in the Saleen the max neg toe front and rear and max camber front and rear actually improved my laptimes….by quite a bit....so went with them for quali and after testing the race also!!!

Quali & Race setup Saleen Nurb: *remember to change fuel for each session!!

 

Thanks Nico....that's good insight. Might do it next round, dunno yet...thanks for putting this up though!

 

that excel file is awesome. Thanks dude! What was your name in the race?

 

Matt Webb - that spreadsheet is automatically generated by the awesome Second Monitor app : https://simracing.site/2019/01/27/second-monitor-telemetry-viewer-project-by-winzarten/

 

Awesome Job Thomas thank you. And RRE as this has come along way since I first installed it! Report away please. FYI, these tricks aren't working for me at Silverstone either

 

I hope it’s Sooner

 

Would this work in a real racing car???

 

Well if similar principles apply through all forms of Motorsport, then according to Jorge Lorenzo, yes; all setups with the most extreme of settings can indeed work for some. Lorenzo although down the order, was maintaining exactly the same lap times as the guys at the front, at Sundays MotoGP. Yet if you ask Crutchlow or Marques about his setup, they both described it as similar to a chopper, all long and high at the front. The exact opposite to every rider ever to ride a Honda and totally against Honda's own philosophy on how to set the bike up. So is Lorenzo wrong? are Honda wrong? or are parameters in setups allowing riders to use the bike the way they want it, which is surely the whole reason for having the ability to adapt a component independently of another, in numerous connotations thereby allowing for the extremes in individuals setups. Surely Lorenzo has not found an exploit to change the laws of physics? he just expects something different than others and is not afraid to tell manufacturers they are doing it wrong (for him). Saying all that of course, Sim physics are a compromise and simplification of what is actually going on, so leans itself to exploits if flawed, which of course a fair few in all Sims are. Here's hoping that as processing speeds increase, Sims run more on a 1 to 1 with real life and every component and flex can be simulated as is, at an affordable cost to us peasants, preferably pre-cataclysm!

 

updated Silverstone quali / race setup. Can go a tenth quicker and can keep it on the circuit for a 10 lap race. More drivable.