no hand and wheel shakes left/right until spin out

is it normal that at very high speed with many cars, if i have no hand on the wheel, it shakes from left to right and i spin out ?

 

Hmmm,

I would say it depends on your force feedback configuration and of course the car itself...

 

for example i235, and my FFB has 0% for minimal force cause higher wheel shakes too much.
can you try to find the FFB effect which makes the wheel shake please ?

 

What kind of wheel do you use?

 

ts pc racer

 

I don't have this issue with TS-PC Racer, maybe customize your FFB profile, default one is not good with clipping.
If you want to try mine, it's here.

EDIT: Finally I remember having the same issue first weeks I had my wheel, so probably that's caused by the default FFB profile.

 

Afaik you should increase minimal force a bit... 3 - 5% at least... have you tried that?

 

Btw. I have a ts-pc racer, too. I‘m basically using the settings from @Georg Ortner
You find those a few posts after @ChatCureuils link...

 

I would lower the vertical forces. I have set them 10% lower than the lateral forces. The M235i tends to escalate a little bit at higher speed. It is easy to provoke this behaviour by giving the wheel a quick "kick" to the left or to the right. The result is a shaking wheel (and car ) that comes from the instable, loose, oversteering -whatever you name it- BMW's tail. Lowering the vertical forces reduces the forces in the wheel in terms of tail movment...

 

Yes, 3-5% is a good point to start...I use 3% minimal force

 

i have most of things at maximum, i like strong FFB.
Chatcureuil your FFB can be good but i have all steering force at 100, and slip effect at 100 !
lower i feel nothing, that's why i have minimal force at 0.
it's ok i will go on like that, thx all

 

with default FFb multiplier it's like Assetto with everything at 100

 

I would say this is a strong setup, jupp very strong, ehh very very strong...

Are you sure that your wheel isn't clipping with these settings? The green graph should not exceed the upper red line... only when you take some high curbs very fast or when you get off the track...

 

i don't know !
how can I display graph ?
and yes i like strong feelings
is it bad if it clip ?


edit : i will try FFB from Chatcureuil
i have found "G" shortcut"

and Yes it clips sometimes, always when i'm in the dirt, and sometimes on vibrators.
And i have put 5% with minimal force it's good

 

i have tested profile from Chatcurueil and it's what i fear, too too weak.
I feel i drive a FIAT 500L or Peugeot 207 70CV.
i haven't driven real GT3 and is it more like my profile or not ?

 

As I said in the other topic, I think you have crazy clipping with this setup, that means you lose a lot of details, if not all.

What is the force value in your driver setting ? It should be 100%, then in game you have to use FFB meter to test that you don't clip with the strongest cars (like modern DTM or FX17) and adjust your in-game settings to match this goal.

Finally you can modify the FFB multiplier for each car that have a weak FFB (like P1/P2), just to make it as strong as your reference when customizing FFB setup.

IMO, my FFB is strong but you'll feel all the wheel force only if your Trhusmaster driver is at 100%, car FFB multiplier adjusted, and when driving at the limit (when maximum forces are applied to the car).

 

i have clipping out of the track in the dirt/grass and sometimes at very high speed in long turn.
and it's normal to have clips i think.
you have a big marge.
your graph is probably often very low.
mine is often under the red line.
you probably use 30% of ts pc racer and i use 99%.
i have bought ts pc racer cause my old TX was too weak and FFB decreased cause too high for it.
your FFB seems to be good but too light for me

 

Before to customize my FFB I found I had lot of cipping and the setup was weakest than yours.
When there's clipping your lose details. My FFB graph is mostly between 50 % and 80 % and the highest peaks with strongest cars (without to go off-track) close to 100%. But I repeat that I had to increase FFB multiplier of weakest cars and I use the Thrusmaster driver at 100% (default is 75% if you never changed it).
And with more force it would be hard for me to race for 90+ minutes. ^^

 

This (wheel oscillation in a straight line) is a very old issue. I'm not sure what the resolution is other than keep your hands on the wheel!

 

yes i have 75% on thrust panel and most of the time default ffb multiplier but i increase sometimes....
i race every day 4 hours = 240min
FFB strengh is different for everyone but i think real sport cars have strong FFB much closer to my settings than yours