Performance Index

Discussion in 'Community Workshop' started by Georg Ortner, Jan 10, 2018.

  1. OverTheClock

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  2. OtterNas3

    OtterNas3 Well-Known Member

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    Just a small addition to complete the list including all Classes in the Game - E-Sport/Competition classes included
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    Perf. Index | Class Name                              | Class ID
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    5           | FR X-17 Cup                             | 5824
    10          | FR US Cup                               | 5383
    15          | FR2 Cup                                 | 4597
    20          | P1                                      | 1714
    30          | P2                                      | 1923
    35          | DTM 2013                                | 1921
    35          | DTM 2014                                | 3086
    35          | DTM 2015                                | 4260
    35          | DTM 2016                                | 5262
    36          | Mercedes-AMG Motorsport                 | 5623
    36          | C-Klasse DTM 2005                       | 7168
    37          | BL Cup                                  | 2322
    37          | CLK DTM 2003                            | 7167
    40          | Hillclimb Icons                         | 1685
    45          | FR3 Cup                                 | 5652
    50          | GTR 1                                   | 1687
    55          | GTR 2                                   | 1704
    60          | GTR 3                                   | 1703
    60          | ADAC GT Masters 2013                    | 2922
    60          | ADAC GT Masters 2014                    | 3375
    60          | ADAC GT Masters 2015                    | 4516
    62          | Zonda R Cup                             | 7110
    63          | Mercedes-AMG Motorsport 30 Years of DTM | 6794
    63          | C-Klasse DTM 1995                       | 7075
    65          | Group 5                                 | 1708
    70          | GTO Classics                            | 1713
    73          | Porsche 911 GT3 Cup                     | 6345
    73          | Super Racer                             | 7041
    75          | WTCC 2014                               | 3905
    80          | WTCC 2015                               | 4517
    80          | WTCC 2016                               | 6036
    80          | WTCC 2017                               | 6309
    80          | eSports WTCC                            | 6172
    85          | Tatuus F4 Cup                           | 4867
    90          | Procar                                  | 2378
    90          | KTM X-Bow RR Cup                        | 5385
    95          | DTM 1992                                | 3499
    95          | Touring Classics                        | 1712
    100         | Audi TT RS cup                          | 5234
    102         | GTR 4                                   | 5825
    103         | Cayman GT4 Trophy by Manthey-Racing     | 6648
    105         | Silhouette Series                       | 1717
    110         | Aquila CR1 Cup                          | 255
    115         | German Nationals                        | 1706
    120         | WTCC 2013                               | 1922
    122         | BMW M235i Racing Cup                    | 6344
    124         | WTCR 2018                               | 7009
    124         | Esports WTCR Prologue                   | 6783
    125         | Audi Sport TT Cup 2015                  | 4680
    125         | Audi Sport TT Cup 2016                  | 5726
    126         | Group 4                                 | 7304
    127         | FRJ Cup                                 | 253
    135         | NSU TTS Cup                             | 4813
    
     
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  3. kendoslow

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    Are the figures for DTM 2014 correct, seems quite a disparity from 13/15/16.
     
  4. OtterNas3

    OtterNas3 Well-Known Member

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    You are right!
    Updated the list, to the correct one.
     
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  5. OtterNas3

    OtterNas3 Well-Known Member

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    Updated the list with the new Group 4
     
  6. NL-Jos

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    Maybe a stupid question (or not, lol)
    Have someone have any idea how much
    Influence Fuel has on the BOP?
    I know this could be different by car, but is there a indication so that we can use it as ballast to make some care more
    Equal
     
  7. sbarro3

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    I don't get the performance rating for WTCR 2018, is that really correct?
    in my opinion they are much faster then the GTR 4 class...(?)
     
  8. OtterNas3

    OtterNas3 Well-Known Member

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    I just checked again and yes it is correct :)
     
  9. sbarro3

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    @OtterNas3 thank you...
    so far, I thought, the lower the index the faster the class... so where am I wrong? cause the WTCR 2018 is definitely faster than GTR 4.
     
  10. OtterNas3

    OtterNas3 Well-Known Member

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    You are absolutely right, the lower the number the higher the class in performance.
    These are the values Sector3 set for the classes, so my guess is that they are correct.
    If you make yourself a Singleplayer MultiClass Grid with WTCR2018 and GT4 - The GT4 will start in front of the WTCR.

    I just read out the values of the API.

    So if there is not a bug in the numbers inside the Game, which only one of the Dev's can asnwer, it should be like in the list.
     
  11. RoccoTTS

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    I compared some times in leaderboards and my own times and i think the GT4 and Cayman CS Cup have the wrong PI.
    Both Silhouette Series and Aquila CR1 Cup should be slower than GT4, but they are way faster.

    Also when i race against GT4 and Cayman CS Cup i have to raise the ai strength way more than normal.
     
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  12. sbarro3

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    Wouldn't it be more like Aquila CR1 (i love that car) have the wrong PI? Imho it should be near WTCC 2017 and WTCR 2018 should be near Audi TT RS...
    @Georg Ortner Is it possible to check / explain that from the developers side?
     
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  13. Luis Mercury

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    35 | DTM 2013 | 1921
    35 | DTM 2014 | 3086
    35 | DTM 2015 | 4260
    35 | DTM 2016 | 5262

    same? ....there is tire with prime and soft.....and other....only soft.
     
  14. rom_rs

    rom_rs Member Beta tester

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    Hello,

    Yesterday, we had a race in our league with WTCR cars, but in the json generated by our server the performance_index is 102 everywhere => GTR 4 !

    Bug ?

    Best regards,
     
  15. OtterNas3

    OtterNas3 Well-Known Member

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    Updated list after last patch:


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    Perf. Index | Class Name                              | Class ID
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    5           | FR X-17 Cup                             | 5824
    10          | FR US Cup                               | 5383
    15          | FR2 Cup                                 | 4597
    20          | P1                                      | 1714
    30          | P2                                      | 1923
    35          | DTM 2013                                | 1921
    35          | DTM 2014                                | 3086
    35          | DTM 2015                                | 4260
    35          | DTM 2016                                | 5262
    36          | Mercedes-AMG Motorsport                 | 5623
    36          | C-Klasse DTM 2005                       | 7168
    37          | BL Cup                                  | 2322
    37          | CLK DTM 2003                            | 7167
    40          | Hillclimb Icons                         | 1685
    45          | FR3 Cup                                 | 5652
    50          | GTR 1                                   | 1687
    55          | GTR 2                                   | 1704
    60          | GTR 3                                   | 1703
    60          | ADAC GT Masters 2013                    | 2922
    60          | ADAC GT Masters 2014                    | 3375
    60          | ADAC GT Masters 2015                    | 4516
    60          | ADAC GT Masters 2018                    | 7278
    62          | Zonda R Cup                             | 7110
    63          | Mercedes-AMG Motorsport 30 Years of DTM | 6794
    63          | C-Klasse DTM 1995                       | 7075
    65          | Group 5                                 | 1708
    70          | GTO Classics                            | 1713
    73          | Porsche 911 GT3 Cup                     | 6345
    73          | Super Racer                             | 7041
    75          | WTCC 2014                               | 3905
    80          | WTCC 2015                               | 4517
    80          | WTCC 2016                               | 6036
    80          | WTCC 2017                               | 6309
    80          | eSports WTCC                            | 6172
    85          | Tatuus F4 Cup                           | 4867
    90          | Procar                                  | 2378
    90          | KTM X-Bow RR Cup                        | 5385
    95          | DTM 1992                                | 3499
    95          | Touring Classics                        | 1712
    99          | Audi TT RS cup                          | 5234
    100         | WTCC 2013                               | 1922
    101         | Aquila CR1 Cup                          | 255
    102         | WTCR 2018                               | 7009
    102         | Esports WTCR Prologue                   | 6783
    103         | GTR 4                                   | 5825
    104         | Silhouette Series                       | 1717
    105         | German Nationals                        | 1706
    106         | Cayman GT4 Trophy by Manthey-Racing     | 6648
    125         | Audi Sport TT Cup 2015                  | 4680
    125         | Audi Sport TT Cup 2016                  | 5726
    126         | Group 4                                 | 7304
    127         | FRJ Cup                                 | 253
    128         | BMW M235i Racing Cup                    | 6344
    135         | NSU TTS Cup                             | 4813
     
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  16. Georg Ortner

    Georg Ortner Sector3 Developer

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    First post updated.
     
  17. Nico Kunze

    Nico Kunze Well-Known Member

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    Can these index numbers be interpreted as say 5 index points lower means 1% faster on a lap or is such a conversion not possible?
     
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  18. Torned The Bullet

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    May we have the update, thanks in advance.
     
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  19. NL-Jos

    NL-Jos Well-Known Member

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    I hope there will be a system that you know how much weight balance a performance point is.
    Which means you can organize a multiclass better
     
  20. keanos

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    Porsche Carrera Cup Classic - 130
    Porsche 962 C (Gruppe-C) - 47
     
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