News Physics Update: Touring Classics, DTM 1992, Group 4, Procar

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  1. KOKORO ga PYONPYON

    KOKORO ga PYONPYON Well-Known Member

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    R32GTR 6MT is wrong.
    It is 5MT correctly.
    The R32GTR has never been equipped with 6MT.

    Please correct immediately!
     
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  2. Alex Hodgkinson

    Alex Hodgkinson Sector3 Developer

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  3. RoccoTTS

    RoccoTTS Well-Known Member

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    Maybe next time change this by "Can you please look if this is correct ?" :p
     
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  4. Bauer

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    At least he said please :rolleyes:
     
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  5. KOKORO ga PYONPYON

    KOKORO ga PYONPYON Well-Known Member

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    I apologize for the lack of knowledge.
    sorry.
    I didn't really know.

    In the Japanese race (Gr.A JTC), Nissan 5-speed MT was installed by regulation.
    (Although it could be used, it was made unnecessary)
    This confused me.

    I thought that Bathurst(ATCC) R32GT-R also uses the same Nissan 5MT.
    Until today, I did not know that there is 6MT.

    I thought that full-fledged racing 6MT was adopted from R33GTR.
    R33GT-RLM
    [​IMG]

    Remorse the lack of study

    Is it possible to divide the GT-R into 5 MT (JTC) and 6 MT (ATCC) GT-R?
    Greedy?
     
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  6. Not Lifting Off

    Not Lifting Off Well-Known Member

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    DTM92s

    Dont have a clue why anybody would want these back the way they were, WTF!

    As they are now, great fun to drive, huge improvement all around, AWESOME!
     
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  7. pixeljetstream

    pixeljetstream Well-Known Member Beta tester

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    Imo they were way easier to drive. More planted at higher speeds, which wasn't accurate/realistic.
     
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  8. CrimsonEminence

    CrimsonEminence Well-Known Member

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    They're are way more slidey at the edge now, especially when driving hard turns :D Now you have to drive them with the pedals. Before it was more on rails (was pretty fun, though). I like the new way, it works.
     
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  9. Badgerous

    Badgerous Well-Known Member

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    Any tips on the revised M1 Pro car?

    Down shifting on entry to a slower corner almost always ends in me pointing arse-first down the track. I'm experiencing this as a general occurrence with this car on all tracks, but a specific example would be the first right-hander at Nurburgring - I come off the brakes, smoothly (I think) shift into second, and the back end just kicks out every time. It's not an issue I have in any other H-pattern car. What am I doing wrong?

    *None of this is meant as a negative. I love the new physics stuff, and I suspect the M1 will be quite satisfying when mastered.
     
  10. Alex Hodgkinson

    Alex Hodgkinson Sector3 Developer

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    Do you heel-and-toe?
     
  11. Beastux

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    I think you asked a good question. Without a right heel-and-toe, most H-pattern cars are hard to drive.
     
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  12. Badgerous

    Badgerous Well-Known Member

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    No.. I've yet to learn that particular skill. I've not found I've needed it on the other cars so far.
     
  13. BeefMcQueen

    BeefMcQueen Well-Known Member Beta tester

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    Just try it out - it not only stabilises your car, it's a lot of fun doing so on top! I think the Porsche 934 is another H-pattern candidate in which you hardly can go into first gear without heel'n'toeing.
    I'm no expert, but when I started practising it, it helped me a lot to raise throttle sensitivity to achieve more revs by just slightly hitting the pedal.
     
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  14. Beastux

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    You're absolutely right. I can tell you that I used 1st gear at the Druids corner during the FR Junior @ Brands Hatch Indy competition and it wouldn't have been possible without heel-and-toe (and I often crashed even with it :D).
     
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  15. memoNo1

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    I am not an expert. But the old cars must always be driven with Heel & Toe. It has something to do with the differential. If you don't use Heel & Toe technology, the rear wheels will lock and the rear will overtake you. Everything is just a question of practice and personal will. And it's definitely fun.
     
  16. memoNo1

    memoNo1 Well-Known Member

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    And yes, the Porsche Group 4 is a masterpiece that has to be mastered! In my opinion the best car currently at RRE. Hopefully the De Tomaso will follow !
     
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  17. Badgerous

    Badgerous Well-Known Member

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    Thanks chaps - I'll give the ol' heel and toe a bash.

    I understand the rough principle, but are there any tips to bare in mind here?
     
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  18. R.Noctua

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    [​IMG]

    Love it :p
     
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  19. Beastux

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    First, your brake and throttle pedals must be close enough to allow heel-and-toe. Then, you'll have to learn each car behaviour because some cars will need a slight input on the throttle whereas others (the 934 for example) will require more, especially if you want to use the first gear in some turns.

    I remember when I discovered heel-and-toe back in GT Legends and I had to practice several weeks before approaching my previous best laptimes, but I was able to better them quickly after and it's very useful now in R3E.
     
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  20. BeefMcQueen

    BeefMcQueen Well-Known Member Beta tester

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    I know this is not a video thread, but I could not resist...

     
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