Question Poltergeist: Steering settings changing by themselves?

Discussion in 'Community Support' started by Lixma, Aug 7, 2017.

  1. Lixma

    Lixma Honorary QA

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    Is it just me or do the steering settings occasionally change themselves?

    For example I will have the steering ratio for a particular car set to 30 then the next day (after I've crashed a few times) I will go to the garage and find the ratio set to 20.

    It doesn't happen all the time but enough to make me paranoid. Now every time I visit a track I go to the garage just to make sure everything is set properly.
     
  2. Timmy L

    Timmy L Well-Known Member

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    Do you sleepwalk?
     
  3. Lixma

    Lixma Honorary QA

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    Don't joke, we are dealing with forces we don't fully understand!
     
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  4. ChatCureuil

    ChatCureuil Well-Known Member

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    If the game crashes, maybe it doesn't save the steering setting you changed in the current racing session.
     
  5. J-F Chardon

    J-F Chardon KW Studios Developer

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    I believe your cat has seen the ghost that did it.

    And to try and be helpful I'd say @ChatCureuil is probably on to something.
    I do wonder how you made your game crash though, that sounds like a worse issue.
     
  6. Lixma

    Lixma Honorary QA

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    The game has crashed maybe 3 times in total and I can't remember the last time it did crash. I don't think that's the reason.

    I dialled in my steering settings a long time ago; I know exactly the settings I use for the three or four cars I most regularly use so I've no reason to alter them. These days the only reason I ever go in to the steering settings is when, for some reason, the settings have changed.
     
  7. Timmy L

    Timmy L Well-Known Member

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    You need to work out what is causing the PC to crash first...
    Does anything else crash the PC?
    Other games/programs?
    What operating system are you on?
    Windows 10 etc..
    Malware checks?
    Virus checks?
    Ghost checks?
    Have a look, and let us know.
    We will try to help.
    Nothing we can do about ghosts...
     
  8. Lixma

    Lixma Honorary QA

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    The PC isn't crashing, it's fine. When I referred to crashing I was referring to my car crashing because the steering ratio had been altered.

    The steering settings changed from between last night and today....it's not the first time this has happened.
     
  9. Timmy L

    Timmy L Well-Known Member

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    I am sorry, I misunderstood you.
    That issue I have not heard of before.
    Maybe someone has..
    Good luck.
     
  10. m.bohlken

    m.bohlken Well-Known Member

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    Any chance that you've changed the USB-Port of your Wheel lately?
    If I remember right I had something similar in the past. After I switch back to the previous USB-Port everything was fine again.

    Another thing you can try is to disconnect the Wheel, uninstall the driver and reinstall the driver (with connecting the wheel when prompted within the install-process - not before) and then create a new Controller-Profile in R3E...
     
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  11. Lixma

    Lixma Honorary QA

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    No worries, my writing is at fault, not you.

    No, it's been in the same port since the bronze age. Thanks for the tips though...it might be worth doing some PC 'house cleaning' just in case.
     
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  12. Lixma

    Lixma Honorary QA

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    OK, I can reproduce this bug.

    a) I load Mercedes EVO II at Anderstorp (no reason other than first on page).

    b) I set my steering ratio to 40 (default is 20).

    c) As a precaution I save the setup

    d) I exit then load up a GTR3 (RUF12) at Anderstorp.

    e) I check the steering page and everything is how I left it.

    f) I exit and then reload the Merc @ Anderstorp and check the steering page.

    g) The steering ratio has reverted back to 20 (default).

    Happens every time.

    I'm not sure whether it's affecting just the Mercedes so I will try the remaining DTM '92 cars and a random sampling of other cars to try and shed some more light.
     
  13. Lixma

    Lixma Honorary QA

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    OK, I think I've discovered the logic behind the bug.

    The max steering ratio for the following cars are....

    RUF-12 GT3 = 20
    BMW M235i = 35
    Mercedes EVO II = 40

    Let's say I jump in the Mercedes and set the steering ratio to it's maximum (40). As long as I continue to use the Merc the ratio will stay the same between sessions.

    But if I jump in the BMW M235i, set it's steering ratio to 35 and then go back to the Merc I will find the Merc's steering ratio has been reduced to 35. Similarly if I go back to the Merc after playing in the RUF then I will find the steering ratio reduced to 20.

    This bug is not car-specific. If I drive the M235i with a steering ratio of 35 then take a spin in the RUF (ratio 20) when I come back to the M235i it's ratio will also be 20.

    TL;DR - RR is taking the current car's max steering ratio and attempting to apply it to the next car you drive. If the next car's max ratio is smaller than the current one then nothing happens (or at least it's invisible to the player). If however the next car's max ratio is larger then the current car's max ratio will be applied to it.
     
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  14. sbXII

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    Hi. I know that issue.

    That happened to me with the Audi V8. I chose that car for a touring classic season, so I drove the V8 very often.
    To beginning I chose a rotation with 15:1, 23, but I had problems to drift so I changed it after a time to 12:1, 28.
    Then after I loaded a track with the V8 the steering settings changed back to 23. After a few months it happened no more every time. It was really strange.

    Now since I had this issue before I drive I check the steering settings no matter which car.

    Regards
    Seb
     
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  15. sbXII

    sbXII Active Member

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    That's a good catch. Bravo!
     
  16. Peter Koch

    Peter Koch Well-Known Member Beta tester

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    Okay, got it and reported.
    In the name of Sector 3, I thank you very much @Lixma

     
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  17. Kitsune Magyar

    Kitsune Magyar Professional Betatester Developer

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    Nice catch!