Aggressive Wheel Centering

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  1. machwebb

    machwebb Well-Known Member

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    New to Raceroom and relatively new PC racing. I have only just bought my TM T300 and very happy with it in other sims, and on the whole in Raceroom it's great but wow the centering is very strong and I don't seem to be able to to control it...even manually with TH Control Panel.

    It wasn't noticeable with the DFGT, so Raceroom was my goto drive, but this is killing it for me.

    Any tips or news would be appreciated...Thanks in advance.

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  3. machwebb

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    yeah, it's a real wallop in the face....cheers Dan..
     
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    this has been my main gripe with rr from the beginning, and as you say makes the sim feel unstable and assisted. btw my settings will not rid it completely but does a great job of numbing out that excessive centering force. I believe its a combination of high steering force and high vertical load that causes it, having one much higher than the other helps. ;:)
     
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  5. machwebb

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    just given it a quick go Dan....thanks alot maan....certainly helped to smooth it out...now I can tweak...

    the file is .rcs now though..but found it...cheers!!
     
  6. James Cook

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    Same problem with my Fanatec CSR. I haven't found a way to completely dial out the aggressive centring force with either the in-game FFB menu or the on-wheel settings, but a few .rcs tweaks improved things slightly. I'd really like Sector3 to take a look at this issue.
     
  7. Andy Kettler

    Andy Kettler Well-Known Member Beta tester

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    After i set Spr and Dpr on the CSR from default 000 to OFF the extreme heavy steering was gone.

    For the TX wheel i think its also a messed up setting.
     
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  8. Sonat Ozturk

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    Hi,

    This is most likely due to having spring effects on. You can set these or at least the second one "Spring Coefficient Pos" to 0, to soften the hard centering.

    FFB Joy[00] Axis[00] Spring Saturation Pos="1.0"
    FFB Joy[00] Axis[00] Spring Coefficient Pos="0.5"
    FFB Joy[00] Axis[00] Spring Saturation Neg="1.0"
    FFB Joy[00] Axis[00] Spring Coefficient Neg="0.5"


    We are in the process of making these off by default and adding a new option in the settings. But this should solve your problem in the meantime :)
     
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  9. machwebb

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    Thank you Sonat....will give it a try as soon I can...
     
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    Thanks Andy and Sonat.

    SPR and DPR are always set to off on my wheel anyway.
     
  11. machwebb

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    In the thrustmaster control panel mine are off too...but does Raceroom override them? If it doesn't, will changing the .rcs file do anything...

    Hopefully I can test later.
     
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  13. machwebb

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    Sorry Sonat, again here no difference...I'll keep working on it though cause I wanna race in R3E..
     
  14. Sonat Ozturk

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    Hi again,

    Sorry maybe I generalized it a bit too much.

    The effect you want also depends on various other settings both on your hardware driver and in game settings so my suggestion may not work.
     
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    Are the spring adjustments supposed to only work in the .rcs filewhen Spring is on in the driver then? cause I'm afraid to say I tried that. The only way I can get the effect to weaken is to weaken the FFB overall....but then it's too weak.

    Also in the driver/wheel control panel, the Constant setting doesn't do anything, only Periodic. Thrustmaster T300. Is this normal?

    One more question, do we only adjust the four settings on Axis[00]?

    Thanks in advance..
     
  16. Peter Koch

    Peter Koch Well-Known Member Beta tester

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    I have constant 0%, gives a better car/road feeling.
     
  17. machwebb

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    Which wheel do you use Peter?

    I know this is going to sound crazy but I prefered the feel of it with the dfgt. I had some strength in the wheel, the feedback was okay and without this centering problem...

    I also noticed that the return multiplier did practically nothing too...

    I am honestly not grumbling here....just hoping I can help in some way.

    Thanks
     
  18. Peter Koch

    Peter Koch Well-Known Member Beta tester

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    I user tx/ t500, my wheels only react to the car movements. No spring or swaying.
     
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    Would you mind sharing your setting? for the t500, if different please. Just to see your approach. thanks.
     
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    Peter Koch Well-Known Member Beta tester

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