AI is too slow or too fast at some corners.

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by silvanob2, Jun 7, 2017.

  1. silvanob2

    silvanob2 Active Member

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2015
    Ratings:
    +25 / 0 / -0
    Hello fellow racers,
    as the title say, this is a prob in every sim, have been saying this for years but nobody wants to listen.
    what i suggest is to have a sort of plugin where we could change the speed in every corner for any serie at any track, i know this would be a bit time consuming but driving behind a AI we could find out witch curve to edit, now that would make offline just great IMO.
    Altough i know probably impossible to achieve in R3E because of lack of modability.

    R3E devs, if your listening...
     
    • Disagree Disagree x 1
    Last edited: Jun 7, 2017
  2. Timo Heyden

    Timo Heyden Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2016
    Ratings:
    +66 / 0 / -0
    I don't think, that it is so easy to implement an tool, in which you can change the speed of the AI especially of every corner.
    Do you have some examples, where do you think, the devs can improve the AI?
     
  3. James Cook

    James Cook Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 30, 2015
    Ratings:
    +1,013 / 0 / -0
    Last corner at Anderstorp.
     
  4. Karting06

    Karting06 Well-Known Member Beta tester

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2016
    Ratings:
    +128 / 0 / -0
    I have recorded an example for that corner at Anderstorp...
     
  5. Christian G

    Christian G Topological Agitator Beta tester

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2015
    Ratings:
    +2,411 / 0 / -0
    Reported by Andi, fix pending.
     
    • Like Like x 5
    • Agree Agree x 3
  6. V10_Dog

    V10_Dog Member

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2016
    Ratings:
    +7 / 0 / -0
    Spielberg T2 is a problem too, the ai is very slow. Same with Spa 19/20.
     
    • Informative Informative x 1
  7. silvanob2

    silvanob2 Active Member

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2015
    Ratings:
    +25 / 0 / -0
    Brandshatch the tight left corner down the hill, AI slow down too early.
     
    • Informative Informative x 1
  8. Rella

    Rella Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2015
    Ratings:
    +108 / 0 / -0
    Too slow at Portimao Lagos corner, could also need some more speed at Torre Vip
     
  9. Squidboy

    Squidboy Member

    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2016
    Ratings:
    +23 / 0 / -0
    This has probably been covered in another thread so apologies if so, how does the A.I. actually work? Guessing/assuming it is not A.I. in the sense of machine learning and improving itself and more along the line of pre-programmed with some collision avoidance code in there.

    Would it be possible or even feasable to have the A.I. map/use the leaderboards speeds and lines? To eaxplain- If I select a race at Spa at maximum difficulty for 20 cars i would then be effectilvy racing the top 20 cars on the leader board for that track using their 'ghost car' A.I.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  10. Squanchy

    Squanchy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2016
    Ratings:
    +66 / 0 / -0
    It might be individual, but for me the AI has always been too slow in hairpins and tight corners, and too fast in long sweeping corners.

    Too slow in:
    Nurburgring first turn
    Oschersleben first turn
    [EDIT] Shanghai first turn
    Laustiz first turn (on the hairpin layout)
    Really slow in the hairpin in Karlskoga (6th turn?)
    Laguna Seca last turn
    [EDIT] Moscow at turn 3

    Too fast in:
    Red Bull ring "Wurth" turn
    Anderstorp- the two wide U turns
    Suzuka esses

    The "too fast" ones might be just me, but I'm pretty sure the slow ones are universal.
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
    • Informative Informative x 1
    Last edited: Jun 23, 2017
  11. Eisprinzessin

    Eisprinzessin Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 7, 2015
    Ratings:
    +315 / 0 / -0
    In Paul Ricard (Sol A) the AI is really slow everywhere. On the straight, and in the courve after the straight.

    In general i have to put AI strength in GT3 up to 112 to have a fight for the victory. On other tracks its abou 109.
     
  12. silvanob2

    silvanob2 Active Member

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2015
    Ratings:
    +25 / 0 / -0
    Just found out at Falkenberg, the curve before the straight and in the esses after start.