Problem FANATEC CSR FFB settings

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  1. nolive721

    nolive721 New Member

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    hello.

    new here since I took advantage of the Black Friday Sales to buy the the Premium pack

    I had installed the game and tested the free content in the last few weeks but I have been struggling to get the FFB settings right for my FANATEC CSR wheel.
    the wheel is old but the motors are still going strong and giving me a good experience in other Racing games titles (namely PC1&2 and AC) but I cant seem to get the FFB right with RRE

    wheel feels notchy in tight corners with lack of weight&smoothness overall

    the settings in the game are quite by their numbers to be honest and even if the CSR has the possibility to alter quite a few things in the wheel itself, again I am really struggling to get things right to enjoy the game

    which is a pity because what I see and close to feel seems really great hence why I took the plunge to buy the Premium pack

    I was considering to replace my wheel at Xmas with more of a latest generation one (T300RS or CSL Elite) but if I could avoid ditching the money and keep using my CSR,I wouldn't mind.

    any help much appreciated

    thanks

    Olivier
     
  2. Thomas Jansen

    Thomas Jansen Well-Known Member Beta tester

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  3. nolive721

    nolive721 New Member

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    ok thanks thomas,I will try this as a base in the next few days

    and thanks for directing me to this FFB guide thread as well,helps for better understanding the impact of all these settings indeed
     
  4. nolive721

    nolive721 New Member

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    hello Thomas,
    thanks again for your guidance. I have tried your settings but I hate to say, the result wasn't great. Might be that my CSR wheel has much lower torque than your CSW2.5 and the wheel was feeling very very light with no FFB and pretty much no under/over-steer or roads effect perceived

    To get something more enjoyable, I left below as yours
    Force Feedback Intensity: 100%
    Smoothing: 0%
    Force Feedback Spring: 0%
    Force Feedback Damper: 0%

    but cranked up these settings
    Steering Force Intensity: 50% went to 100%
    Force Feedback Minimum Force: 0%
    Understeer: 50% went to 100%
    Vertical Load: 50% went to 100%
    Lateral Force: 50% went to 75%
    Steering Rack: 0%

    Slip Effect: 0%
    Engine Vibrations: 0%
    Kerb Vibrations: 20%
    Shift Effect: 30%
    Collision Effect: 50% went to 100%


    Its better, much better than what I had achieved so far, but now that I realized there is a FFBmeter,I can see my wheel clipping in some tight corners

    I need to spend some time, that I dont have much..., to do some more tweaking to get the wheel right and start enjoying the game.
    I think I am not too far off so again thanks for sharing and directing me to the FFBguide thread this has helped a lot.
     
  5. Shivas FR

    Shivas FR Active Member

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    I have the CSR wheel (non elite) and in R3E, I use the default FFB profile for it. My only change was the slip effect I turned down to 10%.

    That mean, I still have the 25% smoothing and 10% in minimum force. Like you said, our wheel is very old and it's, in my opinion way better with this settings.

    I only up or down the FFB multiplier on each car.

    Don't put the understeer at 100% the wheel go light too much too soon. 60% is great and go to 50% or less if you want a heavier wheel.

    You can also play with the steering rack settings. This settings are very personal. 100% mean all the FFB come from the steering rack and 0% from the tires.

    On the wheel itself, SEN to OFF, even with the last update of raceroom I now need to change the roatation to match the virtual wheel, doesn't needed before the last update.

    FF to 100, SHO to 100, DEA LIN 0, SPR and DPR Off, DRI Off, even if you can play with this one to have a faster recenter wheel to catch a slide easier, but that also made the wheel liter so, personal taste on this one.

    And don't forget to bind a key for the FFB graph. Can be helpfull to know if the FFB clip or not when driving
     
    Last edited: Dec 4, 2018
  6. nolive721

    nolive721 New Member

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    Merci Shivas ca fait plasir d avoir de l'aide d'un compatriote...

    I am going to try your own settings as well so thanks for sharing.

    I didnt mention this earlier but with Thomas settinsg I had really light wheel feeling so I increased the FFB multiplier of teh car I was testing from Std 2.2 to something like 6.It was better but not as smooth as my own tweaking so I went back to std.

    Regarding the wheel settings themselves, I also usually leave the SENS OFF in PCars1&2 but in AC/ACC/AMS, I had to set it to 540 to get a proper feel while turning

    The rest is as you do with FFB100/Sho 100 and other stuff at 0 or OFF but I set the DRI actually high (4 or even 5) so I get a proper feeling after oversteer

    and I did find out about the FFBmeter item so I will bind a key to show clipping in real time

    the CSR is a nice little wheel, Old Gen for sure but better than teh DFGT I had 10yrs ago so if I could avoid an update for Xmas, that would great lol) (but yes Fanatec CSL elite and T300Rs, I am looking at you....)

    A+
     
  7. Wilko Jones

    Wilko Jones New Member

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    New here as well, and I have a Methuselah wheel, er... I mean a CSR. My wheel was driveable, but for the longest it was very grainy or notchy feeling. A lot of times it seemed to momentarily pause in place on screen, and then "catch up" to what I was doing. That prompted me to look into clipping.
    I got the wheel dialed to the point where clipping rarely happens, but it was still notchy. I got to the point where I was just going to live with it, but something with Raceroom I wasn't going to live with was frame rates running less than 60FPS.

    So I set out to fix that today, and I was successful. Fixing the FPS came with a pleasant side effect. My wheel is now buttery smooth and responds quickly, and none of the freezing in place has happened so far (knocks on wood) Perhaps looking into framerates may yield some results?

    I'll add my wheel settings later tonight.

    As promised, here are my settings. One note, I did use GamerMuscle's settings and I don't remember if I changed them.

    Raceroom Force Feedback Settings
    Steering Force Settings:

    Steering Force Intensity - 100%
    Force Feedback Effect Setting - 0%
    Understeer - 90%
    Vertical Load - 40%
    Lateral Force - 40%
    Steering Rack - 100%

    Force Feedback Effect Settings:
    Slip - 48%
    Engine Vibrations - 0%
    Kerb Vibrations - 10%
    Shift Effect - 15%
    Collision - Effect - 0%

    My Fanatec CSR settings:
    Sen Off
    FF 100
    Sho 0
    Dri Off
    Abs Off
    Lin 0
    Dea 0
    Spr 4
    Dpr 4
    Acl Off

    Notes:
    I have the wheel's spring setting that high to aid the centering effect, but since fixing the FFB I am going to back that down to 2.
    The wheel's Damper settings was to smoothen out the sim's grainy feel, that's going to be reduced or turned off.
     
    Last edited: Feb 11, 2019