Question Toe In?

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  1. Rob

    Rob Member

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    I have a question with car setups, mainly with TOE IN and TOE OUT in raceroom experience. Do the bigger negative numbers equal more toe in or do the bigger positive numbers equal more toe in??
     
  2. fl0wf1r3

    fl0wf1r3 Well-Known Member

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    I also always get confused. I found this one here
    for instance: for a RWD car, a negative "toe in" means the wheels are pointing inwards (front axle), positive numbers are pointing outwards. correct me if I am wrong
     
  3. le_poilu

    le_poilu Well-Known Member

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    Indeed :
    -X number is a TOE In => wheel pointing inside (based on the direction you drive of course). So to add TOE IN you mathematically decrease the number: -20 is more TOE IN than -10
    +X number is TOE Out => wheels pointing outside.

    To resume:

    TOE In = negative numbers
    TOE out = positive numbers

    But once you have the schema showed above in head it's more easy to get and you only think about TOE angle and not specially about TOE IN and TOE OUT.
     
  4. theravenousbeast

    theravenousbeast Well-Known Member

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    Wait a second.
    If
    TOE In = negative numbers
    TOE out = positive numbers
    Then why do all the cars have +x in the rear and -x in the front? How would it make sense to have toe out in the rear of a 500hp RWD car?
     
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  5. Christian G

    Christian G Topological Agitator Beta tester

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    The description of the setting should be self-explanatory but the toe setting gives room for confusion since the dawn of time. :)

    The text string is "Toe In (Front and Rear)" so positive values mean a positive Toe In = Toe In.
    Negative Toe In values mean the opposite of Toe In = Toe Out.
     
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  6. le_poilu

    le_poilu Well-Known Member

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    TOE OUT on the rear wheel give more stability (when you brake and/or enter the turn)
    So it's specialy for powerful RWD that you put toe out on the rear wheels
     
  7. Christian G

    Christian G Topological Agitator Beta tester

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    That stands contrary to everything I've read about toe adjustment.

    http://temp.buchtic.net/RD-Setup-Guide-1.0.pdf

    http://www.racedepartment.com/threads/assetto-corsa-car-setup-guides.99049/#post-1907640

    http://en.intraxracing.nl/techniek/camber,-caster,-toe-intoe-out/