WTCR driving guide (help)

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  1. GooseCreature

    GooseCreature Well-Known Member

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    Surely just the FX90's being hyped up! :rolleyes: Just wish my brain could keep up with such HP festooned animals, can manage the odd hot lap but to maintain breakneck speeds from lights out to the flag, just bamboozles my brain and over squeezes my sphincter. :eek: Young mans car, of course being the adolescent old git I am, I will buy them all, never know, my reflexes may just be temporarily dormant and about to burst back into life, right round the next corner. Then again I may just dive to the tunnel at the RR track and make music! :cool:
     
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  2. GooseCreature

    GooseCreature Well-Known Member

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    Practice keeping the revs up during initial braking, sounds dumb but tiz how it's done. Once you get the hang of it you'll be riverdancing your way around every track! ;)
     
  3. jayblue

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    A couple of tips that might help -

    1) Brake in a straight line, sounds obvious but with no weight on that rear axle turning and braking in to high speed corners is a fast way to an accident.

    2) Trail brake. Keeping a little throttle percentage on while you turn in will stabilise the car.

    3) Soften off the rear ARB and / or stiffen the front ARB.

    4) Make smoother transitions between your throttle and brake inputs. Aggressively accelerating and suddenly lifting off completely will make the car rotate unpredictably.
     
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  4. Wilko Jones

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    I've adjusted the Brake pressure forward. That helped me keep the Hyundai from spinning.
     
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  5. Skelm

    Skelm New Member

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    If you are uncertain , like me, I have been using a little piece of software called "virtual race car engineer" which has been a great help for me , who knows very little about car setups.
     
  6. ValentinoTaylor

    ValentinoTaylor New Member

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    Do you struggle with driving the cars in general or just against the AI?
    If it's the latter, don't panic too much. R3E's AI is quick in fast corners in general, and I think with the WTCR cars they are too quick. I often go "wow, where did that grip come from?" when they pass me.

    Otherwise, what jayblue said. Keep it smooth, avoid lifting the gas too much, unless you want to make the car rotate.
     
  7. benoityip

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    This driver has died from accident in this corner a few years ago in a WTCC Chervolet
    This is his tips regarding left foot braking in a Honda DC5 Type R in Macau 200km/h corner. I think WTCR has overdone the lift off steering a bit, but I am fine

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    Full video of Macau at
     
  8. Heath

    Heath Well-Known Member

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  9. Wilko Jones

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    I have been wanting to get something like that. I have Setup Develoment tool 2018 on my Steam Wishlist, and I was hoping that it would work well with RaceRoom. But I didn't really look into it's reviews or if it will help me with this sim.

    Where did you get Virtual Race Car Engineer?

    Thanks. I'm checking this out right now.
     
  10. majuh

    majuh Well-Known Member

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    Why is the Cupra so unstable under braking? The rear tyres lock much faster than in the Honda for example.
     
  11. ravey1981

    ravey1981 Well-Known Member Beta tester

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    On default setups or custom?
     
  12. majuh

    majuh Well-Known Member

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    Try it in leaderboard mode using the default setup with the rear wing set to -5°. The rear tyres tend to lock up in the braking zone in front of the Mercedes-Tribüne on Hockenheim, for example. It's not a problem at all in the Honda.
     
  13. ravey1981

    ravey1981 Well-Known Member Beta tester

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    Will have a look when I get chance, assume you have tried moving brake balance a couple of clicks forward? All cars are based on geometry etc of their real life counterparts so do have different characteristics, this may just be one of them.
     
  14. majuh

    majuh Well-Known Member

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    Yes, it's better with the brake balance shifted by 3% to the front, but the Cupra and Honda feel so different under braking that it's hard to believe they're both TCR cars.
     
  15. majuh

    majuh Well-Known Member

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    Funnily enough, the invitation for the Cupra Simracing Series race at Monza mentions the following:

    Due to overheating brakes issues, after a recommendation by the developers, the race distance has been shortened to 45 minutes!
     
  16. Olaf Hülse

    Olaf Hülse Well-Known Member

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    This seems to be logic as WTCR is a sprint series, so normally they deal with races up to 30 mins. Monza as a brake-killer deserves its name and therefore it is quite realistic.
    But on the other side, it's quite unrealistic that TCR cars that survive Endurance Races of 24h can't deal with these small sprint events. Do they use other brakes there? All I know is a different fuel tank as well as different tyre sets that can last some endurance stints...
    Therefore, it would be nice to have these TCR24h car specs to be able to run VLN and Endurance races in general on tracks such as Spa, Nürburgring Nordschleife and Dubai. Even as an Ai, you can't really endurance race with them 'cause they do thousands of stops.
    Greetings
     
  17. stephen19

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    very helpful information
     
  18. majuh

    majuh Well-Known Member

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    So, I did a 45 minutes race in preparation for the race tomorrow, and guess what, after exactly 45 minutes, my left rear brake went bust.

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  19. ravey1981

    ravey1981 Well-Known Member Beta tester

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    It is being looked at I can assure you that.
     
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