Any DD/Servo wheels out there on R3E (AF, OSW, Bodner)??

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by switchface, Nov 18, 2015.

  1. A.K.Racing

    A.K.Racing New Member

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    I will tested this year Porch gt4 on real race track cause I really want to know how feels real race car and also how hard they steering etc!i will put post when I do that!
     
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  2. KudBkuik

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    Of course, these are just games after all but, I always strive to make it as good as it can be and the quest for ever greater immersion ends with the realization that there is no substitute for reality in most cases. Still, limitations of one sort or another, keep me in the hunt. ;)
     
  3. Not Lifting Off

    Not Lifting Off Well-Known Member

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    I have seen an Accuforce v1 for sale at a decentish price, i like the idea but need convincing that its worth the upgrade. Currently using all fanatec which i could sell for more than the price of the Accu v1, equivalent to a free upgrade?
    Is the difference that great, i never have feedback set too high, much prefer to feel something coming through the wheel than be fighting excessive weight and trying to build up my Garth muscles.
    How well does it perform in Raceroom, its currently the only game i play but will be starting to have a proper look at ACC in the next few weeks. Are they easy to configure, plug in and go or a lot of configuring to get a decent feel.
    Thanks in advance.
     
  4. KudBkuik

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    Most DD-wheel users will say yes, it's absolutely worth the upgrade. The main difference is an increase in overall Dynamic Range of the FFB and there is no more versatile software available than SimCommander.

    The increased Dynamic Range allows us to have the best of both worlds; more detail at moderate settings but, also more intensity for such things as cornering-grip forces. Normal steering resistance can be easy while hard cornering can be stronger and more intense without losing detail. Even at higher force levels, you are less likely to feel like the wheel is fighting you (up to a point).

    Tuning the AccuForce can be easy or complex, it just depends how deep down the FFB rabbit hole you want to go. You can download user profiles from the Owner's Club or you can use Auto-Tune to get started. Either way, just be sure to learn about how to avoid soft-clipping - especially in the game FFB settings. Clipping is far more evident with a DD-wheel but, it's one of the common mistakes that a DD-wheel user is likely to make early on.

    The most reliable way to avoid soft-clipping is to leave the strength setting high in the wheel-driver settings and use the game-FFB strength level to dictate overall FFB strength. Soft-clipping will always affect the FFB negatively but, using the game FFB-meter and the one in SC4 can insure that you will have no clipping issues.

    I like the AccuForce FFB in RaceRoom but, it's been many years since I've used a mainstream wheel. Still, it's difficult for me to imagine a case where any mainstream wheel will out-perform a DD-wheel and the inclusion of SimCommander gives us even more versatility with titles that fall outside the very top sim's.

    The unknown factor here is the Fanatec Podium series. If I were vested in Fanatec gear, I might want to wait and see how the Fanatec DD rates with users after it arrives (especially those with prior DD experience). If waiting does not appeal to you, then maybe get the AF now and you should be able to recover your investment later if you want to go with the Podium series.

    I also own and use an OSW-SimuCube wheel but, I miss having SimCommander in some cases. SC4 is the AF-system's greatest strength imo but, not everyone wants to explore the greater depths of FFB tuning like I have.
     
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  5. richlevy2003

    richlevy2003 Well-Known Member

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    Accuforce v1 user for a few years now. The ffb is pretty good. Some tracks it gives almost a road surface feel, others not. The jolts/notchyness that it gives may be a problem for you. I used this and a fanatec clubsport till the clubsport wheel died last summer(v2).
    Free upgrade, I'd go for it. The accuforce v2 is better
    Ymmv
     
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  6. KudBkuik

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    The jolts and notchy-ness can be tuned out completely but, it may involve a couple of tweaks in the rcs-file. The main culprit with both my DD-wheels was the "Steering Rack" forces; the notchy issue goes away if that is set to zero or 100%.

    IIRC, I had to force Steam to download a new AccuForce Preset for RR and use that for my new wheel profile as it seems something changed with one of the updates and my old AF-profile in RR didn't work right until I refreshed it.

    Still, if the bump-effect intensity is too high, that should be reduced with a proper balance of the vertical suspension effects in RR-FFB. If the curb-effects cause the wheel to pull too much or the wrong direction, that can be solved with an rcs-file tweak. If the AF-preset is new, it should not produce those issues providing the RR-FFB settings are not working against one another. The relationship between vertical and lateral forces needs to be balanced (not necessarily equal).
     
  7. Not Lifting Off

    Not Lifting Off Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the replies, i have been doing a fair bit of reading and think im gonna go for it so long as nothing gets in the way, cant seem to find anything but good on the overall ffb feel and difference between DD and belt driven.
    If i do i`ll be back picking brains and begging configs ;)
     
  8. RWB Charger

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    V1 user here, I don't bother with sim commander only use it for a buttkicker, the base settings work fine but the AF profile in RRE is awful and gives nasty jolts in corners, I deleted it and just did a custom profile same as OSW users use, instantly felt great with a few tweaks in game and the RCS file.

    Definitely worth the upgrade,the V1 is a great wheel depending on how much you are getting it for?